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Old 08-15-22, 07:15 AM
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Chorus ?
must have been for a domestique
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Beautiful bike, and nice attention to detail (purposefully and creatively crimped cable end caps, etc.). I love those Chorus parts.

I'd shorten that front brake cable, though.

Never understood why Campy didn't use quick releases on so many of their brake calipers. I think they introduced this feature?

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Originally Posted by repechage
Chorus ?
must have been for a domestique
I think that he may have meant that the bike was Team Lampre painted colors, not that the bike was an actual team's bike!
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And Lampre were sponsored by Shimano, so it would've been Dura Ace...

Nice looking bike though

I had one for a few years, rode kinda harsh
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Very nice -- but the American Classic seat post sort of stands out as different (singing to myself: "one of these things is not like the others...") ...

Now go ride that thing -- don't let it go to waste as a wallflower!
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The bike is for sale for $3000 OBO on FB Vintage Ti.
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Originally Posted by smd4

Never understood why Campy didn't use quick releases on so many of their brake calipers. I think they introduced this feature?
Campy invented the cam-action QR for hubs. Brake QRs migrated from the calipers to the levers a long, long time ago.

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Originally Posted by bamboobike4
The bike is for sale for $3000 OBO on FB Vintage Ti.

might need that OBO

other than it being a lugged frame, does not shout C&V
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Campy invented the cam-action QR for hubs. Brake QRs migrated from the calipers to the levers a long, long time ago.

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Are they variably adjustable from the lever?
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Originally Posted by smd4
Are they variably adjustable from the lever?
Don't think so but the sliding release pin stop is there so no QR on the caliper.
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Don't think so but the sliding release pin stop is there so no QR on the caliper.
As the brake QR was invented to accommodate slightly out of true wheels (and not just to facilitate the removal of the wheel), this design is retrograde. Which Is yet another reason I’m running DA.
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Originally Posted by smd4
As the brake QR was invented to accommodate slightly out of true wheels (and not just to facilitate the removal of the wheel), this design is retrograde. Which Is yet another reason I’m running DA.
Yeah its use is a bit limited but It worked just fine for me when I had to take the front wheel off every day to get the bike in the locker at work.

Maybe it was meant to tell you when the wheels needed to be trued.
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Maybe it was meant to tell you when the wheels needed to be trued.
Maybe…
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Originally Posted by smd4
As the brake QR was invented to accommodate slightly out of true wheels (and not just to facilitate the removal of the wheel), this design is retrograde. Which Is yet another reason I’m running DA.
Nah, wheel removal (especially with fat tubulars) was the primary reason for QRs at the caliper. One removed wheels much more often than they opened QRs for out-of-true wheels. I suppose there were/are lazy peeps who'll run bent wheels into the ground without truing them, thus requiring a constantly-open caliper QR, but they're prolly in the minority

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Originally Posted by Drillium Dude
Nah, wheel removal (especially with fat tubulars) was the primary reason for QRs at the caliper. One removed wheels much more often than they opened QRs for out-of-true wheels. I suppose there were/are lazy peeps who'll run bent wheels into the ground without truing them, thus requiring a constantly-open caliper QR, but they're prolly in the minority

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I’ve read both explanations.
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Originally Posted by smd4
I’ve read both explanations.
Me as well, but the operation occurring most often would likely be behind the design philosophy, not the other way around. So, again, retrograde? I don't think so.

My opinion, dictated by common sense, and still only worth a couple pennies

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Originally Posted by Drillium Dude
Me as well, but the operation occurring most often would likely be behind the design philosophy, not the other way around. So, again, retrograde? I don't think so.

My opinion, dictated by common sense, and still only worth a couple pennies

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A simple “open/close” mechanism isn’t as useful in other situations as something variably adjustable. Also a common sense, nearly worthless opinion.
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Originally Posted by Drillium Dude
Nah, wheel removal (especially with fat tubulars) was the primary reason for QRs at the caliper. One removed wheels much more often than they opened QRs for out-of-true wheels. I suppose there were/are lazy peeps who'll run bent wheels into the ground without truing them, thus requiring a constantly-open caliper QR, but they're prolly in the minority

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Ya know, my vintage Mavic rims with Challenge Parigi-roubaix tires, the Record QR caliper does not open up enough to pass the tire. I need to adjust the barrel adjuster a few turns as well.
I don't run my brakes "close" either.
But, I too miss the eccentric at the caliper.
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Originally Posted by smd4
As the brake QR was invented to accommodate slightly out of true wheels (and not just to facilitate the removal of the wheel), this design is retrograde. Which Is yet another reason I’m running DA.
Was quite leading edge in 1968.
Pretty versatile.
Everybody else was all closed or open, Weinmann had the QR at the lever, its claim to fame was that the next actuation of the brake lever closed things up.
Mafac even had one at the lever, a J track for the cable anchor pin. Pretty rare.
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Originally Posted by repechage
might need that OBO

other than it being a lugged frame, does not shout C&V
Not mine. In the Colnago world, though, there are fans of each paint scheme, team colors, etc.
The Mapei fans are by far the most dedicated. They will pay that much for a repaint in some cases.
For them, it’s about a lot more than the actual bike, frame, etc. Huge enthusiasm factor.
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Originally Posted by Drillium Dude
My opinion, dictated by common sense, and still only worth a couple pennies

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Heck, I’ve had to give change for that.
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Originally Posted by bamboobike4
The bike is for sale for $3000 OBO on FB Vintage Ti.
And listed in various locations across the Ontario Kijiji for 3700$CDN
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Originally Posted by smd4
Never understood why Campy didn't use quick releases on so many of their brake calipers. I think they introduced this feature?
It is a safety feature. The release on the brake lever doesn't affect overall brake performance should you forget to close the brake release after a wheel change and you can reset the brake lever without having to stop. With a release on the brake calliper you can lose brake power if the lever is left open. you have to stop to close it. If you discover that your brake isn't working well on a steep hill you may have difficulty stopping
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Originally Posted by alcjphil
It is a safety feature. The release on the brake lever doesn't affect overall brake performance should you forget to close the brake release after a wheel change and you can reset the brake lever without having to stop. With a release on the brake calliper you can lose brake power if the lever is left open. you have to stop to close it. If you discover that your brake isn't working well on a steep hill you may have difficulty stopping
You just rub slowly all over the road when you bend a rim. Makes sense.
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