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Old 01-28-16, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Machine Age
I'm trying to figure out why your bike has more room at the brake bridge w/32mm tires than my 1977 710 frame. ... Here's what mine looks like w/32mm Paselas on Mavic A319.
Just curious. Was the A319 ever made in a 27" size? I can't quite read your tire designation in that pic.
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Not as far as I know. These are 700c. Seeing the TX700 I assumed it was made for 27" but the brochures list the same 36.5cm dropout to bridge distance so I'm scratching my head unless some TX700 were different.

Actually I just went and measured my frame and it's around 35.5cm so mine's the one that's different. I have two 710 frames and they're both this way. But in 25.5" frame size...wonder if that makes any difference. The engineer drawing is for 22.5" on both frames.

Too bad, another cm clearance at the bridge would be helpful.
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...in truth, a sport touiring bike as defined in the OP seems to be what I ride now mostly.
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...forgot what is probably the nicest one. I sincerely hope I will not live to regret the white fenders, which are an experimental nod to style.
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Old 01-31-16, 06:53 PM
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Excuse to post my TREK 412 again, I love this bike.

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Old 01-31-16, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 3alarmer


...forgot what is probably the nicest one. I sincerely hope I will not live to regret the white fenders, which are an experimental nod to style.
This is sweet; I like woodrups a lot.
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Old 01-31-16, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by jamesj
Excuse to post my TREK 412 again, I love this bike.
If it were mine, I'd be posting it a lot as well. What year is it? I'm surprised that it doesn't have top tube cable guides; the bike looks great.
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Originally Posted by 3alarmer


...forgot what is probably the nicest one. I sincerely hope I will not live to regret the white fenders, which are an experimental nod to style.
This beautiful bike reminds how good Shimano 600 is.
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Originally Posted by 3alarmer


...forgot what is probably the nicest one. I sincerely hope I will not live to regret the white fenders, which are an experimental nod to style.
I've had two Woodrup bikes at different points in my life, loved them both, and may end up with another one some day! Your vintage of Giro-Tour is a great candidate for a 650B conversion wink, wink, nudge, nudge

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Old 02-01-16, 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by 3alarmer


...forgot what is probably the nicest one. I sincerely hope I will not live to regret the white fenders, which are an experimental nod to style.
Really nice!

What are those pedals?
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My 1981 715. I probably posted this picture in other threads but I think it qualifies.
Recently add a 34 tooth cog to help me of the hills. Also intend to swap out the rear derailleur for either a Suntour vx-gt or a vgt-luxe over the next few months.

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Originally Posted by Bruce27
My 1981 715. I probably posted this picture in other threads but I think it qualifies.
Recently add a 34 tooth cog to help me of the hills. Also intend to swap out the rear derailleur for either a Suntour vx-gt or a vgt-luxe over the next few months.

This is a cool bike. Treks made a big deal of sports touring bikes back in the day. A lot of their marketing material in the early 80s divided up their road bikes into racing, touring, and sports touring. I worked in a shop then and thought that was both a good idea and good marketing.
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I think the ST400 counts! I am still lusting after a set of Suntour Command shifters for it like The Golden Boy has

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Old 02-01-16, 11:30 AM
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@3alarmer - NICE bike! White fenders look good. Use white cable housing to finish it off.
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Originally Posted by nlerner
I think that sport tourers get plenty of attention in C&V land (well, maybe not as much as flat out tourers, but I'd like to know how many owners are actually touring on those bikes!). I find that the early to mid 1970s were a sweet spot for sport touring geometry, particularly from Great Britain. In my fleet:

1971 Raleigh International w/ 30mm tires and fenders:


1973 Condor Italia w/ 30mm tires:


1976 Wes Mason w/ 30mm tires:
Hey man, do you think the International can handle a 32mm tire? I'm considering picking up a set for more touring-oriented purposes for my '74 International, but I'm not sure if they'll fit or not.
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The Nishiki I have waiting for me any time I get out to the Olympic Peninsula.

I could post my caliper-equipped Trek 520, but since most years of that bike saw canti studs and tour marketing, it maybe doesn't make the cut.
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Originally Posted by bikemig
This is a cool bike. Treks made a big deal of sports touring bikes back in the day. A lot of their marketing material in the early 80s divided up their road bikes into racing, touring, and sports touring. I worked in a shop then and thought that was both a good idea and good marketing.
Thanks. They certainly hooked me at the time.
Great thread. All the pic contributions are super.
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The Nishiki I have waiting for me any time I get out to the Olympic Peninsula.

I could post my caliper-equipped Trek 520, but since most years of that bike saw canti studs and tour marketing, it maybe doesn't make the cut.
The 520 ended up being a full on touring bike but it started out in the early years as more of a sports touring bike so you should post it. How often do you get out to the Olympic Peninsula to ride? I'm getting to stash a bike (a 1996 bianchi volpe) near the Olympic Peninsula and get some riding in there.
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Originally Posted by Machine Age
I'm trying to figure out why your bike has more room at the brake bridge w/32mm tires than my 1977 710 frame. According to the catalogs at vintage-trek, they both measure 36.5cm from dropout to bridge. Here's what mine looks like w/32mm Paselas on Mavic A319. 2mm clearance from tire to brake!

It's the Paselas' fault. They did the same thing on my Paramount. I posted photos in an old thread somewhere.
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Originally Posted by bikemig
The 520 ended up being a full on touring bike but it started out in the early years as more of a sports touring bike so you should post it. How often do you get out to the Olympic Peninsula to ride? I'm getting to stash a bike (a 1996 bianchi volpe) near the Olympic Peninsula and get some riding in there.
Not much any more -- don't have access to the house where they're stored so much anymore. It's too bad, my wife's beautiful mint SR 600 Arabesque lined lug mixte is there in cold storage, too... would be nice to ride on the Sequim/PA rail trail again! Besides, I like to be there for folks who are having a tough time. Just to be there.

520 is under construction -- getting some 5500 9sp. The paint is rough... maybe a PC would be in order before I put it all together...

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Originally Posted by mikefitzvw
Hey man, do you think the International can handle a 32mm tire? I'm considering picking up a set for more touring-oriented purposes for my '74 International, but I'm not sure if they'll fit or not.
On my '71, definitely, yes.
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Originally Posted by pcb
I managed to get out for a couple hours today on my Waterford ST-22. ST meaning Sport-Tour, so it prolly fits this theme. Haven't photographed it for a while, so I hit some of my fave spots and shot. Temps started in the low 40s, finished in the high '30s, roads were all almost completely free of snow. It was colder and very windy down at the Hudson River, there were some angry white caps on the water. The wind blew the ST-22 down at one point, fortunately not when it was right at the edge of the drink.



PCP - Your Waterford appears to be almost identical to mine except for the color scheme. Is yours painted Monarch Orange from the Waterford color palette? Here's the geometry drawing for my Waterford. Mine is painted in Sherwood Forest green with ivory panels. I plan to get it repainted when I retire, and Monarch Orange is on the short list for colors but I'm leaning toward English Blue at the moment.
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BTW, Mercian and Bob Jackson cycles in England make some very nice sport touring models for reasonable prices, but they call them Audax bikes over there. I almost bought a BJ Audax but the geometry of their World Tour model seemed to fit me a little better. If I was in the market for a new frame, I would be very tempted to buy a Mercian Audax. They can customize the geometry/fittings for all of their bikes, so you can easily add features such as mounts for fenders and racks, clearance for larger tires, extended head tube, etc.
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Originally Posted by Darth Lefty
It's the Paselas' fault. They did the same thing on my Paramount. I posted photos in an old thread somewhere.
Yep, Paselas seem "tall" to me, although I haven't tried the 32's myself the 25's, 28's and 27 x 1 1/4" have been taller than other tires the same width. I think it's the tread shape, it seems significantly thicker in the centre.
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Originally Posted by mikefitzvw
Hey man, do you think the International can handle a 32mm tire? I'm considering picking up a set for more touring-oriented purposes for my '74 International, but I'm not sure if they'll fit or not.
Last week, my International wore 35mm tires with knobs and studs, effectively larger than 35mm. So yes.
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