The Cino Zeus
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The Cino Zeus
First off, this thread belongs to my kid and his bike. He's been pretty slammed with school, sports, and kid stuff. So I'm going to help get something started here.
A couple months back we rode Cino over in Montana. Mountaindave had a bike donated to raise money for the Kalispell Montessori. That bike is the Zeus here, and was given by the original owner, along with a tub of extra parts.
Dave held a silent auction Saturday night after dinner at Cino. In the end, Thomas put in the winning bid and got to bring home a new bike. An auction side note: a big thank you to Doc, for his contribution to the cause. He went above and beyond.
Fortunately for Thomas and I, David was able to put us in contact with the original owner of this bike(via email). We have exchanged several messages now, and learned a bit about this Zeus-es past.
There's more, but I'll post up some pictures now.
Mountaindave presenting the bike at auction
'As found'
A couple months back we rode Cino over in Montana. Mountaindave had a bike donated to raise money for the Kalispell Montessori. That bike is the Zeus here, and was given by the original owner, along with a tub of extra parts.
Dave held a silent auction Saturday night after dinner at Cino. In the end, Thomas put in the winning bid and got to bring home a new bike. An auction side note: a big thank you to Doc, for his contribution to the cause. He went above and beyond.
Fortunately for Thomas and I, David was able to put us in contact with the original owner of this bike(via email). We have exchanged several messages now, and learned a bit about this Zeus-es past.
There's more, but I'll post up some pictures now.
Mountaindave presenting the bike at auction
'As found'
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This bike is beautiful. I'm looking forward to reading this thread as the bike gets worked on.
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We got home from Montana and weren't ready for a complete overhaul, so I dug through some bins and we made a few changes. I had tape, a Unicanitor saddle, and a set of repro hoods. Thomas gave it a bath and we installed those pieces.
We've exchanged several emails with the original owner(Mark), and had a couple of Zeus items to send us.
The extra Zeus parts that were included with the bike.
Mark sent this cap, and the Zeus poster below.
The poster arrived in this long box(which kinda resembles a stick..). It was too big to fit in the mailbox, so the postman dropped by the gate. Unfortunately Roxi retrieved the mail on that particular day..
We've exchanged several emails with the original owner(Mark), and had a couple of Zeus items to send us.
The extra Zeus parts that were included with the bike.
Mark sent this cap, and the Zeus poster below.
The poster arrived in this long box(which kinda resembles a stick..). It was too big to fit in the mailbox, so the postman dropped by the gate. Unfortunately Roxi retrieved the mail on that particular day..
Last edited by Roger M; 11-17-21 at 12:23 PM.
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The smile on Thomas's face when showing the bike off to all the C&V guys at the finish was so just plain cool.
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Roger, you're raising the kid right! A full Zeus group on a Zeus frame is up there in C&V desirability. Old farts like me are jealous.
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That Zeus looks pretty nice. I can't imagine the work list is going to be very long.
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Last week we received this bit of history from Mark:
Hi Roger and Thomas,
I have a rainy afternoon now to write you guys this brief. When I moved back to Ft. Collins, CO and in with my little brother in 1977, my 'adult' cycling began when he 'made' me buy that Zeus. He was a USCF amateur, Cat 3 racer on a good team with minimal budget, and I started going to weekend stage races with them. I was very new to that level of sporting and became very interested, though never intended to race. I was happy to be invited on many training rides and we had great asphalt riding between Boulder and Ft. Collins. That Zeus was overpriced for the Ft. Collins market ( $1,000 ) as it was too expensive for Joe Blow, and it did not have the pedigree of a racing machine. Since that bike shop 'sponsored' my brother's team, I got a sweet deal and my first 10-speed. Four years there, trying to keep up with my little bro and his buddies, gave me great riding miles and etiquette. I moved down to Durango, CO and rode more great asphalt down there, enjoying fun mountain passes and fun rolling 'flats.' I missed riding with brother and pals, as I rarely had a wheel to suck! Between 1986 and 2012, I worked overseas a lot which restricted my riding time to some spring and/or autumn rides. After 2012 and finished with seasonal work, I resumed a 'normal schedule' and rode as a weekend warrior. In 2003, I treated myself to a new road bike (Gios) and the good ole' Zeus got demoted, but not ignored. Zeus was mounted on a basement trainor for off-season spinning, and ridden on the flats when I just wanted to rumble along the valley roads. And the Gios went out when we wanted to climb and descend. I've no way to quantify the miles on the Zeus, but they've been good quality miles. It's never really crashed, but has tipped over a time or two! I've never started a ride in the rain, but have returned home soaking wet sometimes. It's been kept pretty clean, well maintained, taken to shop for occasional necessaries, and always parked indoors. Though not a training fanatic, after Ft. Collins, I've lived in ski towns to satisfy my winter ski needs, so the road bikes 'never' went out from December till April. Oh by the way, I've wanted to add this tid-bit. The Zeus used to suffer from 'ghost shifting' which is the reason I replaced the rear mech, but that didn't resolve. A smart mechanic did fix that by replacing the standard shift cable with a bigger Campy wire cable, and the 'ghost' went away. I'm really psyched that you guys are going to have fun with Zeus and ride it! I'll get this promised hat in the mail to you soon, too.
All my best,
Mark A
Hi Roger and Thomas,
I have a rainy afternoon now to write you guys this brief. When I moved back to Ft. Collins, CO and in with my little brother in 1977, my 'adult' cycling began when he 'made' me buy that Zeus. He was a USCF amateur, Cat 3 racer on a good team with minimal budget, and I started going to weekend stage races with them. I was very new to that level of sporting and became very interested, though never intended to race. I was happy to be invited on many training rides and we had great asphalt riding between Boulder and Ft. Collins. That Zeus was overpriced for the Ft. Collins market ( $1,000 ) as it was too expensive for Joe Blow, and it did not have the pedigree of a racing machine. Since that bike shop 'sponsored' my brother's team, I got a sweet deal and my first 10-speed. Four years there, trying to keep up with my little bro and his buddies, gave me great riding miles and etiquette. I moved down to Durango, CO and rode more great asphalt down there, enjoying fun mountain passes and fun rolling 'flats.' I missed riding with brother and pals, as I rarely had a wheel to suck! Between 1986 and 2012, I worked overseas a lot which restricted my riding time to some spring and/or autumn rides. After 2012 and finished with seasonal work, I resumed a 'normal schedule' and rode as a weekend warrior. In 2003, I treated myself to a new road bike (Gios) and the good ole' Zeus got demoted, but not ignored. Zeus was mounted on a basement trainor for off-season spinning, and ridden on the flats when I just wanted to rumble along the valley roads. And the Gios went out when we wanted to climb and descend. I've no way to quantify the miles on the Zeus, but they've been good quality miles. It's never really crashed, but has tipped over a time or two! I've never started a ride in the rain, but have returned home soaking wet sometimes. It's been kept pretty clean, well maintained, taken to shop for occasional necessaries, and always parked indoors. Though not a training fanatic, after Ft. Collins, I've lived in ski towns to satisfy my winter ski needs, so the road bikes 'never' went out from December till April. Oh by the way, I've wanted to add this tid-bit. The Zeus used to suffer from 'ghost shifting' which is the reason I replaced the rear mech, but that didn't resolve. A smart mechanic did fix that by replacing the standard shift cable with a bigger Campy wire cable, and the 'ghost' went away. I'm really psyched that you guys are going to have fun with Zeus and ride it! I'll get this promised hat in the mail to you soon, too.
All my best,
Mark A
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[QUOTE=Roger M;22294218]We got home from Montana and weren't ready for a complete overhaul, so I dug through some bins and we made a few changes. I had tape, a Unicanitor saddle, and a set of repro hoods. Thomas gave it a bath and we installed those pieces.
We've exchanged several emails with the original owner(Mark), and had had a couple of Zeus items to send us.
Roger M,
This picture says it all.....Besides T-Mar, who says a picture is worth a 1000 words?
Best, Ben
We've exchanged several emails with the original owner(Mark), and had had a couple of Zeus items to send us.
Roger M,
This picture says it all.....Besides T-Mar, who says a picture is worth a 1000 words?
Best, Ben
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Thanks everyone for the comments.
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A great auction purchase, and a perfect start to a collection for Thomas.
Not that you need anyone to tell you, but he’s a great kid. You must be proud.
Not that you need anyone to tell you, but he’s a great kid. You must be proud.
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Mmmm, Purple
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Very good. I would repack the hubs and the bottom bracket unless you can absolutely confirm they were recently done.
Geometry on the bike looks "earlier" the recessed brake attachment is in line with 1977 for an early adopting company.
Will be a terrific white road bike.
Geometry on the bike looks "earlier" the recessed brake attachment is in line with 1977 for an early adopting company.
Will be a terrific white road bike.
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A very beautiful blue Zeus just sold on or C&V Classifieds forum......
Unfortunately. Zeus bikes seems to be always unjustifiably overlooked in the C&V forums, where Italian, French and English bikes dominate the attention....
Unfortunately. Zeus bikes seems to be always unjustifiably overlooked in the C&V forums, where Italian, French and English bikes dominate the attention....
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Some details:
The non Zeus branded parts:
Cinelli stem and bars
Unicanitor saddle
Toe clips and straps
Rims
Bottle cage
Pump
Everything else is Zeus:
Hubs and skewers
Shifters and covers
. Derailleurs
All cable guides and stops
Brakes and levers
Pedals(I believe they're track pedals)
Crankset and Bottom bracket
Headset
Seatpost and binder bolt
The non Zeus branded parts:
Cinelli stem and bars
Unicanitor saddle
Toe clips and straps
Rims
Bottle cage
Pump
Everything else is Zeus:
Hubs and skewers
Shifters and covers
. Derailleurs
All cable guides and stops
Brakes and levers
Pedals(I believe they're track pedals)
Crankset and Bottom bracket
Headset
Seatpost and binder bolt
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I don’t think they’re overlooked but they’re really hard to find. I’ve looked for one and off. They just don’t show up that often
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@Roger M
I take a sharpie and Black shoe polish to the Unicanitor's I get.
Spot in the bad places with Sharpie sparingly and tooth brush to work in the wax, then several thin layers applied sparingly and buffed well in between each and of course black shorts after.
Most of them can come way back with some effort.
The quilted one is a Japanese Seamless but you get the idea.
I take a sharpie and Black shoe polish to the Unicanitor's I get.
Spot in the bad places with Sharpie sparingly and tooth brush to work in the wax, then several thin layers applied sparingly and buffed well in between each and of course black shorts after.
Most of them can come way back with some effort.
The quilted one is a Japanese Seamless but you get the idea.
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BTW, mountaindave in flipflops? SPD?
We are most grateful he sacrificed his ride time to keep Cino alive for us to enjoy.
Hopefully next year he can get back in the saddle with us and enjoy the fruits of his labor.
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Looks like a very good start on the Zeus. If you want repro Zeus branded lever hoods, they are available here: https://reciclone.com/collections/fr...40400024076450
Looks like a very good start on the Zeus. If you want repro Zeus branded lever hoods, they are available here: https://reciclone.com/collections/fr...40400024076450
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So we have a bit of progress on the CZ(Cino Zeus). With the local rivers boiling over for the next couple of days here, we started tearing down the bike.
Removing cable guides, shifters, and bottle cages revealed some rust. After the frame gets cleaned up, I'll sand down the spots and touch them up.
The crankset has us on pause. I haven't run into the issue of needing thin walled sockets before, in order to remove the crank bolts. I may just search the garage for a cheap 15mm socket, and take the grinder to it.
Anyhow, that's where we're at.
Removing cable guides, shifters, and bottle cages revealed some rust. After the frame gets cleaned up, I'll sand down the spots and touch them up.
The crankset has us on pause. I haven't run into the issue of needing thin walled sockets before, in order to remove the crank bolts. I may just search the garage for a cheap 15mm socket, and take the grinder to it.
Anyhow, that's where we're at.
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VIVA ARREGUI!
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tip -
the crank removal threads are standard 22mm
however the head of the fixing bolt is 16mm so the clearance for a spanner is quite tight
one can either use the Zeus specific tool or else grind down a 16mm socket to make it into a thinwall so as to fit...
recommend Zeus chainset owners to retain the 16mm fixing bolts as they render the chainset more difficult to steal
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VIVA ARREGUI!
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tip -
the crank removal threads are standard 22mm
however the head of the fixing bolt is 16mm so the clearance for a spanner is quite tight
one can either use the Zeus specific tool or else grind down a 16mm socket to make it into a thinwall so as to fit...
recommend Zeus chainset owners to retain the 16mm fixing bolts as they render the chainset more difficult to steal
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So we have a bit of progress on the CZ(Cino Zeus). With the local rivers boiling over for the next couple of days here, we started tearing down the bike.
Removing cable guides, shifters, and bottle cages revealed some rust. After the frame gets cleaned up, I'll sand down the spots and touch them up.
The crankset has us on pause. I haven't run into the issue of needing thin walled sockets before, in order to remove the crank bolts. I may just search the garage for a cheap 15mm socket, and take the grinder to it.
Anyhow, that's where we're at.
Removing cable guides, shifters, and bottle cages revealed some rust. After the frame gets cleaned up, I'll sand down the spots and touch them up.
The crankset has us on pause. I haven't run into the issue of needing thin walled sockets before, in order to remove the crank bolts. I may just search the garage for a cheap 15mm socket, and take the grinder to it.
Anyhow, that's where we're at.
And on the slot cars.