Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Bicycle Mechanics
Reload this Page >

Shimano ICE tech rotors keep warping after truing

Search
Notices
Bicycle Mechanics Broken bottom bracket? Tacoed wheel? If you're having problems with your bicycle, or just need help fixing a flat, drop in here for the latest on bicycle mechanics & bicycle maintenance.

Shimano ICE tech rotors keep warping after truing

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 09-10-22, 11:51 PM
  #1  
bmeans7
Newbie
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2022
Posts: 22
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Shimano ICE tech rotors keep warping after truing

I have a Shimano Rt70 Rotor 160mm Centerlock Ice tech rotor in the rear and it had a small bend from new. I used the park tool straightening tool to get it trued to absolutely true, but after a ride with only a little breaking the exact same bend was back. I trued it again and after the same ride it was bent in the same place again. Does anyone still have any idea how I can get it to stay true? Thanks so much!

Last edited by bmeans7; 09-10-22 at 11:57 PM. Reason: Additional information
bmeans7 is offline  
Old 09-11-22, 09:27 AM
  #2  
Iride01 
I'm good to go!
 
Iride01's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Mississippi
Posts: 14,986

Bikes: Tarmac Disc Comp Di2 - 2020

Mentioned: 51 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6193 Post(s)
Liked 4,808 Times in 3,316 Posts
Do the brakes stop you? Do they make a lot of noise? Can you feel them dragging? Any other issues other than not the disc isn't quite centered all the time? It's perfectly okay for there not to be any visible gap between the rotor and one of the pads. IMO.
Iride01 is online now  
Old 09-11-22, 10:07 AM
  #3  
Polaris OBark
ignominious poltroon
 
Polaris OBark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2022
Posts: 4,035
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2239 Post(s)
Liked 3,434 Times in 1,797 Posts
It isn't one of their better rotors, which I think have more inherent resistance to this.

Having said that, you might be able to ameliorate the problem by adjusting the caliper position.
Polaris OBark is offline  
Old 09-11-22, 10:37 AM
  #4  
KerryIrons
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 981
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 506 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 638 Times in 356 Posts
Originally Posted by bmeans7
I have a Shimano Rt70 Rotor 160mm Centerlock Ice tech rotor in the rear and it had a small bend from new. I used the park tool straightening tool to get it trued to absolutely true, but after a ride with only a little breaking the exact same bend was back. I trued it again and after the same ride it was bent in the same place again. Does anyone still have any idea how I can get it to stay true? Thanks so much!
It may be that the rotor has some built-in stress in the metal and every time it heats up from braking (not breaking, I hope) the stress gets relieved and the bend is restored. Try "over straightening" at the bend point and see if that works. Also, as was noted, if this bend is not causing problems with braking or noise, you can just ignore it.
KerryIrons is offline  
Old 09-11-22, 10:07 PM
  #5  
Mad Honk 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Bloomington, IN
Posts: 2,949

Bikes: Paramount, Faggin, Ochsner, Ciocc, Basso

Mentioned: 117 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1303 Post(s)
Liked 1,910 Times in 1,140 Posts
From my experience in the auto industry brake rotors warp from heat and the thinner the rotor the easier it is to warp. If the disc is bending in the same place it is likely from a slightly undersized arm that does not tolerate the heat of braking. The cost of replacing the disc will be the expense of a test to see if it is a bad rotor. I would start there. Smiles, MH
Mad Honk is offline  
Likes For Mad Honk:
Old 09-12-22, 12:31 AM
  #6  
speedy25
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: NE oHIo
Posts: 1,072

Bikes: Specialized, Trek, Diamondback, Schwinn, Peugeot

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 160 Post(s)
Liked 53 Times in 43 Posts
many materials have a "memory" and will return to the bent state they were once in. Too bad they cant remember to be straight.

Replace with a new one.

-SP
speedy25 is offline  
Likes For speedy25:
Old 09-12-22, 08:55 AM
  #7  
Barry2 
LR÷P=HR
 
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 2,180

Bikes: 1981 Holdsworth Special, 1993 C-dale MT3000 & 1996 F700CAD3, 2018 Cervelo R3 & 2022 R5, JustGo Runt, Ridley Oval, Kickr Bike 8-)

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 867 Post(s)
Liked 1,204 Times in 693 Posts
Remove the disc and check the mounting surfaces on hub & disc are clean.

Barry
Barry2 is offline  
Old 09-12-22, 02:58 PM
  #8  
bmeans7
Newbie
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2022
Posts: 22
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanks for all the tips do you think that it might help if I got the disk hot during a long decent and then tried to true it while it was still hot? Do you think that would make it more likely to keep it's shape?
bmeans7 is offline  
Old 09-12-22, 03:12 PM
  #9  
bmeans7
Newbie
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2022
Posts: 22
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I was thinking to stop as soon as the decent ends and just try to straighten it there. Theoretically would truing it while it was hot help with the "memory" of the disk?
bmeans7 is offline  
Old 09-12-22, 04:00 PM
  #10  
Koyote
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 7,877
Mentioned: 38 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6963 Post(s)
Liked 10,962 Times in 4,688 Posts
Originally Posted by bmeans7
Thanks for all the tips do you think that it might help if I got the disk hot during a long decent and then tried to true it while it was still hot? Do you think that would make it more likely to keep it's shape?
Originally Posted by bmeans7
I was thinking to stop as soon as the decent ends and just try to straighten it there. Theoretically would truing it while it was hot help with the "memory" of the disk?
Doubtful.

If it's rubbing and caliper adjustment doesn't make it stop rubbing, just buy a new (better) rotor. Or perhaps return the defective rotor, since you stated it was warped out-of-the-box.
Koyote is online now  
Old 09-12-22, 04:03 PM
  #11  
cxwrench
Senior Member
 
cxwrench's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Nor-Cal
Posts: 3,767

Bikes: lots

Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1958 Post(s)
Liked 2,932 Times in 1,489 Posts
Rear brake? Are you using mostly rear braking and overheating your rotor on every ride? Might explain why it's the rear and not the front.
cxwrench is offline  
Old 09-12-22, 04:33 PM
  #12  
bmeans7
Newbie
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2022
Posts: 22
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I don't think I'm over heating them, I mostly do long XC rides and I only have a couple short descents on each ride. I just looked and it does seem to be getting a bit better every time I retrue it. Perhaps the warp will works it's way out.
bmeans7 is offline  
Old 09-12-22, 05:10 PM
  #13  
Polaris OBark
ignominious poltroon
 
Polaris OBark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2022
Posts: 4,035
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2239 Post(s)
Liked 3,434 Times in 1,797 Posts
What happens if you swap the front and rear rotors (assuming they are the same diameter)?
Polaris OBark is offline  
Old 09-17-22, 07:50 AM
  #14  
djb
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Montreal Canada
Posts: 13,216
Mentioned: 33 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2739 Post(s)
Liked 971 Times in 794 Posts
With mechanical avid bb7 discs, if you misadjust the pads, if the non moving pad is too far from the rotor, the moving pad can bend the rotor a bit
this could be your problem, or not at all I've experienced this from messing around with my bb7s when I first got them and was completely new to disc brakes.
djb is offline  
Likes For djb:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.