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Old 02-01-23, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by BertoBerg
Itís anodized unfortunately
Yes it is, strip and polish, easy off is your friend.

And yes, proceed with caution, I use drain cleaner, carefully soak and rinse, soak and rinse until I get just the ano off.
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Originally Posted by merziac
Yes it is, strip and polish, easy off is your friend.

And yes, proceed with caution, I use drain cleaner, carefully soak and rinse, soak and rinse until I get just the ano off.
Iíve tried using Greased Lightning to remove anodizing with mixed results. Iíll give Easy Off a try though!
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Old 02-01-23, 07:23 PM
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yup, I like shiny too.
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Originally Posted by BertoBerg
Itís anodized unfortunately
These had badly faded black cages, maybe poorly done but they turned out great with some patience.



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Originally Posted by BertoBerg
I’ve tried using Greased Lightning to remove anodizing with mixed results. I’ll give Easy Off a try though!
Be very careful and diligent, pretty easy to take off too much once it gets going and can run away from you but you can take it from before that and polish it away sometimes.

Its like bringing a gun to a knife fight.
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Originally Posted by merziac
These had badly faded black cages, maybe poorly done but they turned out great with some patience.
I've got a pair of Superbe pedals that have black cages that have a lot of the black worn away... this inspires me to just strip the black and polish 'em up!
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These were kinda crusty, but polished up beautifully.
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Old 02-01-23, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ehcoplex
I've got a pair of Superbe pedals that have black cages that have a lot of the black worn away... this inspires me to just strip the black and polish 'em up!
Get to it.

Also never forget the black Sharpie, the detailers friend and hider of many scars.
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Originally Posted by ehcoplex

These were kinda crusty, but polished up beautifully.


These have pedestrian chrome to begin with IMO but always cleanup well and look great when they do.

I love cleaning up pedals, they often take a beating and still look great while going another zillion miles.
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Old 02-03-23, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Brad L
I had to do the same on my 1971 PX-10. They polish so easily.
How long would you say the shine lasts before it goes back to the tarnished look?
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Old 02-03-23, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by aggst1
How long would you say the shine lasts before it goes back to the tarnished look?
It depends on how much the bike gets ridden. I wax any bare aluminum parts after cleaning to make it last longer. The PX-10 has a new owner, but it still shines after two years.
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Old 02-03-23, 08:30 PM
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That PX 10 looks like it is in very nice shape, so I imagine the polished crank looks very nice on it. Switching to clinchers pretty much freed you from trying to keep it 'correct.' My '74 is better than 'decent', but not 'pristine' and I think it looks better with the natural aged look of its 93. If the crank was scratched or oxidized, I would definitely polish it up, as Stronglight cranks from that era were about the easiest ones ever to do it on. I don't know how they got the shiny finish on them at the factory, but, in spite of not being anodized, they seemed to age gracefully if not abused. It I were mounting a 93 on a bike that was not originally speced with one, or doing an over-restoration (as most complete restos seem to be these days) I would definitely polish it up, just to get that amazing bling factor on the cheap.

Kudos for keeping that 45t inner ring. These bikes were made to inflict pain on their rider.
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Originally Posted by sbarner
These bikes were made to inflict pain on their rider.
I never think twice about switching chainrings, but I do try to find bikes with the most painful saddles available. And I wear uncomfortably tight shoes.
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Originally Posted by jonwvara
I never think twice about switching chainrings, but I do try to find bikes with the most painful saddles available. And I wear uncomfortably tight shoes.
45 x 52 kind of works with the factory spec 14-21 five-speed, but a 44 would be better and a 40 would be boss. I'm not sure what Peugeot's thinking was, but we should mandate that Florida PX10 owners keep their 45s to conserve smaller 122 mm rings for the rest of us.
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Originally Posted by sbarner
45 x 52 kind of works with the factory spec 14-21 five-speed, but a 44 would be better and a 40 would be boss. I'm not sure what Peugeot's thinking was, but we should mandate that Florida PX10 owners keep their 45s to conserve smaller 122 mm rings for the rest of us.
I run 24-42-46 with a triplizer on my 93. It came 45-52. No ty!
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Originally Posted by sbarner
45 x 52 kind of works with the factory spec 14-21 five-speed.....
Hahaha! Not where I live (or maybe it's more about how long I've lived...)! 45/42 & Red Clover tripleized with a 30 and 14-28 in the back for me.

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Originally Posted by droppedandlost
I like shiny
Beautiful--I have a 77 red PX-10 next in the queue--if I had any doubts about polishing the parts this just erased them!
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Originally Posted by sbarner
That PX 10 looks like it is in very nice shape, so I imagine the polished crank looks very nice on it. Switching to clinchers pretty much freed you from trying to keep it 'correct.' My '74 is better than 'decent', but not 'pristine' and I think it looks better with the natural aged look of its 93. If the crank was scratched or oxidized, I would definitely polish it up, as Stronglight cranks from that era were about the easiest ones ever to do it on. I don't know how they got the shiny finish on them at the factory, but, in spite of not being anodized, they seemed to age gracefully if not abused. It I were mounting a 93 on a bike that was not originally speced with one, or doing an over-restoration (as most complete restos seem to be these days) I would definitely polish it up, just to get that amazing bling factor on the cheap.

Kudos for keeping that 45t inner ring. These bikes were made to inflict pain on their rider.
I re-laced the original hubs on the modern wheels--I have the original tubeless rims and I will always keep them with the bike--pedals too. I try to keep everything else original (both derailleurs on this bike were toast and I stayed with the correct replacements--hopefully they don't crack on me!) but tubeless tires and pedal straps are just too much for me. I love the look but I can't abide the hassle of tubeless and I'm hooked on clipless pedals. The bling really looks sharp on the bike--I have had this bike on by bucket list for some time and getting is shined up really finished it off--I can't wait to get it on the road.

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Originally Posted by sfazio

Flip those brake shoes/holders around before you do take it out for a ride!
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Originally Posted by ehcoplex
Hahaha! Not where I live (or maybe it's more about how long I've lived...)! 45/42 & Red Clover tripleized with a 30 and 14-28 in the back for me.
I did the same. Moved the 45 out with a 42 and "hidden" 28.

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I agree with the above. Unless you're going for perfectly original appearance, once the part is scarred or scratched you should strip off the anodizing and polish to whatever shine suits your fancy. Since none of my bikes are close to stock I do this as time and motivation permits. If I were restoring a bike to original I would strip and smooth off scratches then have the part re-anodized.
(FWIW: my right foot has a significant natural outward angle. My right ankle always polishes the anodizing off the crank after a couple months of riding.)

Speaking of non-stock, here's the Nervar crank on my three-speed Super Sport:

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Originally Posted by sbarner
45 x 52 kind of works with the factory spec 14-21 five-speed, but a 44 would be better and a 40 would be boss. I'm not sure what Peugeot's thinking was, but we should mandate that Florida PX10 owners keep their 45s to conserve smaller 122 mm rings for the rest of us.
A bunch of Paramounts--can't recall the exact time frame--came with 52-49 rings. That's just crazy.
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Originally Posted by ehcoplex
Flip those brake shoes/holders around before you do take it out for a ride!
Ha! good catch--I guess I put those together in a hurry--will do!
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Originally Posted by BertoBerg
How do you like the cream GP5000s? Have you had the chance to ride on them? I am running 28s on my Masi and love them.
Got about 500 miles on them and they are still like butter--I am finishing up another PX-10 and will definitely put a pair of these on it at well.
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