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1958 Schwinn Paramount P-12

Old 06-08-18, 06:14 PM
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Some more crappy pics.
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Yum!
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The condition of the frame is incredible for a 60 yo bike.
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Originally Posted by seedsbelize View Post
Yum!
As I was looking at the pix, my exact thought was "YummyBearLicious!"

No kidding.
@merziac- I love that bike! I love the Brewster Green... THE ultimate classy color.

BTW- I missed the box lining first time around! Fantastic bike!
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Originally Posted by Kactus View Post
The condition of the frame is incredible for a 60 yo bike.
No thanx to me, but from here on out.....
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I would put that bike on a pedestal in my living room and look at it, perhaps worship it. A Paramount road racer with the old style graphics and box lining is just nuts, especially in that color.

Got plans for it yet?

Anyone know what crank this would have had? I'd guess it came with a campy record 151, or perhaps Cinelli steel cottered? Kinda needs something cool.
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*Sniff* "A veritable dog's-breakfast of parts, sullying a classic frame. Such a shame. An embarrassment."

(Can you tell I'm just a teensy bit jealous?)
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Originally Posted by Lascauxcaveman View Post
(Can you tell I'm just a teensy bit jealous?)
Just a bit? I'm as green as that frame with envy!
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Very nice.
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Originally Posted by Salamandrine View Post
I would put that bike on a pedestal in my living room and look at it, perhaps worship it. A Paramount road racer with the old style graphics and box lining is just nuts, especially in that color.

Got plans for it yet?

Anyone know what crank this would have had? I'd guess it came with a campy record 151, or perhaps Cinelli steel cottered? Kinda needs something cool.
I agree and have a couple of ideas. Also agree about this being nuts, I cannot find but one other one like this at all and that one is in the pic of another bike that they are talking about.

Venerable guru Bob Freeman says steel cottered Stronglight Competition. I have also seen that not too long before it the cranks were Schwinn, basically the same design stamped Paramount, Continental and World Sport?

I will be going with a standard 144 Campy for the time being, the bars are already changed to something a little more acceptable with the original levers. I have some other very correct bars and stem as well but for now the slider stem is staying as we are pretty sure it is original to this bike.

RD will be very correct and most everything else is already original save the saddle which is close enough for now, the post is Schwinn scripted and the clamp is Brooks with Whitworth hardware so I am pretty sure it is original as research indicates this came with a B17 but now has an 84 Pro.

Oh and yes it rides very nicely and I will ride it some.

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Originally Posted by Lascauxcaveman View Post
*Sniff* "A veritable dog's-breakfast of parts, sullying a classic frame. Such a shame. An embarrassment."

(Can you tell I'm just a teensy bit jealous?)
Agreed, working on that.
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Originally Posted by RiddleOfSteel View Post
Very nice.
AND lucky, Tx!
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What fun to see. Please update us with pictures as this comes along.
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I have never seen a stem like that! is that the correct one for the era?
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Very cool bike even with the current parts build!
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Nice !! I love that color green. On your next round of photos can you make close ups of the seat tube decals? What's the Saturn looking sticker?
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That's the traditional "hat in the ring" logo. Very interesting history behind that. Worth looking up.
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Originally Posted by mgopack42 View Post
I have never seen a stem like that! is that the correct one for the era?
Yes, originally and traditionally a track stem going way back, this basic design goes back to the beginning of Paramounts in the 30's for Schwinn.

Most of the other major manufacturers had something similar probably well before them.

It is often referred to as a Major Taylor stem. We are fairly certain this one is original to this bike.

Richard Schwinn says many people used them on road bikes as well.
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Nice !! I love that color green. On your next round of photos can you make close ups of the seat tube decals? What's the Saturn looking sticker?
Tx, here you go, not the best.



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Originally Posted by bikemig View Post
Very cool bike even with the current parts build!
Those parts are being eradicated as we speak, they don't compromise how cool the bike is, they are just not cool enough.
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Originally Posted by BigChief View Post
That's the traditional "hat in the ring" logo. Very interesting history behind that. Worth looking up.
ok make me do the work pretty cool - https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...-question.html

...still never got an answer to the "why" - a little more digging found this answer from the Schwinn Bike Forum. See 5th reply from GYSOT
https://www.schwinnbikeforum.com/ind...?topic=34623.0

Here's a sharper pic from the web

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Originally Posted by Deal4Fuji View Post
ok make me do the work pretty cool - https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...-question.html

...still never got an answer to the "why" - a little more digging found this answer from the Schwinn Bike Forum. See 5th reply from GYSOT
https://www.schwinnbikeforum.com/ind...?topic=34623.0

Here's a sharper pic from the web
Here's a better, BIGGER pic,

As an aside, the tubing, airframe connection may be relevant here, as usual just spitballin.


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