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Old 09-05-22, 02:28 PM
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I posted something a couple of days ago that was a bit of a rant about something that bugs me.

I suspect it may not have been a popular sentiment amongst some segment of the cycling population.

Anyway, it seems that it never showed up. I know I hit "post" so did I not post correctly or do possibly controversial posts get removed?
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Basically, it was about how I think bike paths do a disservice to road cyclist because they reinforce the notion that bikes don't belong on the road.
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Originally Posted by fujidon
Basically, it was about how I think bike paths do a disservice to road cyclist because they reinforce the notion that bikes don't belong on the road.
And did you post it in the A&S forum?
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Originally Posted by fujidon
Basically, it was about how I think bike paths do a disservice to road cyclist because they reinforce the notion that bikes don't belong on the road.
Your personal opinion on where cyclists should ride is way too controversial, not worth debating and arguing about it.
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upper right corner of any BF page is your personal icon, drop down to see 'My Posts' and My Recent Posts'. If it took, it will show there and also lead you to where it is...
... post idea doesnn't seem all that controversial to me... usually if a Mod moves a Thread, they'll 'Reply' to the OPs initial post and note that it's done been moved...
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Originally Posted by wolfchild
Your personal opinion on where cyclists should ride is way too controversial, not worth debating and arguing about it.
Are you confirming that my post was inappropriate and so it was removed? I'd really like to know.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
And did you post it in the A&S forum?
No, I posted it in the General Cycling Discussions forum
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Originally Posted by fujidon
No, I posted it in the General Cycling Discussions forum
Why?
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Originally Posted by cyclezen
upper right corner of any BF page is your personal icon, drop down to see 'My Posts' and My Recent Posts'. If it took, it will show there and also lead you to where it is...
... post idea doesnn't seem all that controversial to me... usually if a Mod moves a Thread, they'll 'Reply' to the OPs initial post and note that it's done been moved...
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Thanks, I guess the explanation must be that I didn't post it correctly. I don't feel like doing the whole rant again, but I posted the gist of it here. I may post it again if the mood strikes me, but I wish I had saved it in my clipboard or something.
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Originally Posted by fujidon
Are you confirming that my post was inappropriate and so it was removed? I'd really like to know.
Not inappropriate, just controversial...Next time post it in A & S...Personally I ride wherever I want... Road, MUP, bike path, unpaved trail, singletrack dirt paths, gravel, cutting across parking lots, sidewalks etc. It doesn't always have to be a paved road.,
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
Why?
Why? Because it was a general observation, not specifically related to advocacy and safety. But yeah, it could have fit there as well.
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Originally Posted by wolfchild
Not inappropriate, just controversial...Next time post it in A & S...Personally I ride wherever I want... Road, MUP, bike path, unpaved trail, singletrack dirt paths, gravel, cutting across parking lots, sidewalks etc. It doesn't always have to be a paved road.,
Ride where you like. my issue with bike paths has nothing to do with deterring anyone from riding where they like.

My issue has to do with the ever-growing cultural expectation that bicycles don't belong on the road. Bike paths don't work for me, if they work for you, enjoy.
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Sounds like an A & S topic.
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If there is a bike path that parallels a road and cyclists are using the road, then your argument may have merit. However, for beginning riders, young families on bikes, (and runners, pedestrians and dog walkers) a path is a far safer place no matter what you suppose motorists are thinking.
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Originally Posted by fujidon

My issue has to do with the ever-growing cultural expectation that bicycles don't belong on the road..
Interesting observation. I see more and more bike lanes in towns and cities every day..even in my small town they designated one wide sidewalk from one end of the town through to the other with a yellow line down the centre for bicycles and pedestrians...I figured it seems to be a growing trend to promote cycling for fitness and the climate change issues..
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Interesting observation. I see more and more bike lanes in towns and cities every day..even in my small town they designated one wide sidewalk from one end of the town through to the other with a yellow line down the centre for bicycles and pedestrians...I figured it seems to be a growing trend to promote cycling for fitness and the climate change issues..
That's the difference between city officials who want to promote road safety and other concerns and drivers who don't care about anything or anybody other than themselves.
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Originally Posted by fujidon
Basically, it was about how I think bike paths do a disservice to road cyclist because they reinforce the notion that bikes don't belong on the road.
They belong on the sidewalk.
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Originally Posted by datlas
They belong on the sidewalk.
Yuk, yuk.
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If there is a bike path that parallels a road and cyclists are using the road, then your argument may have merit. However, for beginning riders, young families on bikes, (and runners, pedestrians and dog walkers) a path is a far safer place no matter what you suppose motorists are thinking.
I agree. For the most part, motorists accept that cyclist are entitled to use the road and that has been my experience, with a few exceptions.

As the push for bike paths accelerates, my concern is that eventually, bicycles will be banned from the roads because after all, there are bike paths and they/we should be using them.

Everyone knows, the roads are for cars and it's only through their tolerance that we are even permitted there. Or so far too many think.
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Originally Posted by fujidon
I posted something a couple of days ago that was a bit of a rant about something that bugs me.

I suspect it may not have been a popular sentiment amongst some segment of the cycling population.

Anyway, it seems that it never showed up. I know I hit "post" so did I not post correctly or do possibly controversial posts get removed?
I looked thru your post history and see no such post or thread.

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That's the difference between city officials who want to promote road safety and other concerns and drivers who don't care about anything or anybody other than themselves.
This sums it up.
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Originally Posted by fujidon
I agree. For the most part, motorists accept that cyclist are entitled to use the road and that has been my experience, with a few exceptions.

As the push for bike paths accelerates, my concern is that eventually, bicycles will be banned from the roads because after all, there are bike paths and they/we should be using them.

Everyone knows, the roads are for cars and it's only through their tolerance that we are even permitted there. Or so far too many think.
Every state statute allows bicycles on the road. Until bike "paths" go everywhere a road does, that isn't going to change, especially with "climate change" and governments trying to change transportation usage.
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Originally Posted by fujidon
I agree. For the most part, motorists accept that cyclist are entitled to use the road and that has been my experience, with a few exceptions.

As the push for bike paths accelerates, my concern is that eventually, bicycles will be banned from the roads because after all, there are bike paths and they/we should be using them.

Everyone knows, the roads are for cars and it's only through their tolerance that we are even permitted there. Or so far too many think.
Bikes are considered by most states as ‘vehicles’ and are therefore entitled to use the roads except where strictly prohibited, like on some interstates. States have more important things to be concerned about than bikes on roads. Just my opinion, I could be wrong.
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