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Old 12-07-22, 03:50 PM
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No shufflin' off to Buffalo for you, eh?
Not that far, but I'm considering moving upstate because it's lo longer necessary to accept the high cost of living here.
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Originally Posted by JW Fas
In the past decade I've observed that CDL standards have slipped considerably. The way I see many truckers drive nowadays makes me wonder if they got their licenses out of a cereal box.
CDL standards are actually higher than they've ever been. Though a flatbed might not require a cdl (if gvwr <26,001 pounds). Might have had a blind spot in the right rear of the cab and a headache shield on the bed preventing seeing out a back window.

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Old 12-07-22, 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by rekmeyata
Unfortunately most cycling accident deaths are caused by cyclists unaware of the dangers of a busy city street, even though roughly 56% of all motorists vs cyclists accidents are the fault of the motorists, still a lot of those accidents could have been avoided had the cyclist understood some dangers that are going on around them. Cyclists need to yield to motorists regardless if the cyclist doesn't have to, quite simply a cyclist will lose to a vehicle; is it better to be slowed down and yield and stay alive, or is it better not to yield and exert your legal rights and die?



That is the correct mindset to have when riding a bike. But too many cyclists would rather play chicken with a multi-ton motor vehicle than to yield to it.

Even when I'm driving a car if there is an erratic or crazy driver on the road I will get out of their way as soon as I can. I don't need to play chicken with someone who may be drunk, high on drugs, mentally ill, etc. That is what they always teach you in driver education class learning to drive a car, to have a defensive mindset. You must assume that every other driver on the road is drunk, high, crazy, or simply not paying attention---until proven otherwise.

Always expect the unexpected and prepare to take evasive maneuvers when needed. You can never just assume others will do the right thing and respect your right of way.
The defensive mindset is even more critical to have when you are on a bicycle. Because the consequences are potentially much more severe if something bad happens and one is not within the protective cage of a motor vehicle.
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One helpful trick is to use the truck's mirrors.

If you look directly at his mirror, and co not see the driver, he doesn't see you either.

Of course, if you do see the driver, it's no guarantee that he sees you, but at least he can.

When I'm riding among trucks at the same speed, I'll adjust my position to center myself in the driver's sightlines.
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Old 12-08-22, 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by northernlights
...You can never just assume others will do the right thing...
And ^^THIS is it in a nutshell.
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Old 12-08-22, 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by FBinNY
One helpful trick is to use the truck's mirrors.

If you look directly at his mirror, and co not see the driver, he doesn't see you either.

Of course, if you do see the driver, it's no guarantee that he sees you, but at least he can.

When I'm riding among trucks at the same speed, I'll adjust my position to center myself in the driver's sightlines.
That's good thing to do, as long as it doesn't bring you along side of the truck.
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Originally Posted by rekmeyata
That's good thing to do, as long as it doesn't bring you along side of the truck.
No. You never want to hang out beside the trailer. However, I'll factor eye contact when getting ready to pass.

I don't pass moving trucks if I'm not reasonably confident that they see me.
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Originally Posted by FBinNY
No. You never want to hang out beside the trailer. However, I'll factor eye contact when getting ready to pass.

I don't pass moving trucks if I'm not reasonably confident that they see me.

My general rule at a stopped intersection is to be ether directly in front of or behind any sort of truck.
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Originally Posted by FBinNY
No. You never want to hang out beside the trailer. However, I'll factor eye contact when getting ready to pass.

I don't pass moving trucks if I'm not reasonably confident that they see me.
I never passed large trucks or buses, it's just too dangerous, far too dangerous.
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Originally Posted by rekmeyata
I never passed large trucks or buses, it's just too dangerous, far too dangerous.
I don't know if I'm lucky or unlucky, bit I live and ride in conditions where my speed and that of traffic are fairly matched. That means plenty of passing and getting passed.

FWIW I don't consider this unsafe, but unforgiving, which is why I'm a firm believer in riding smart.
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Originally Posted by rekmeyata
I never passed large trucks or buses, it's just too dangerous, far too dangerous.
I should have never said I never pass a truck. The only time I would consider passing a truck is if there are two lanes and no cars to prevent me from moving over to the left of the truck, and if I can go faster than the truck, then I will pass if I have gotten eyes from the driver. I don't care if I have eyes from the driver to pass on the right, I won't do it. Even if there is no intersection or driveways coming up I still won't pass a truck on the right, I've seen truckers weave just enough to one side or the other that could put a cyclist into trouble, or at the very least make the cyclist feel very nervous.

The other thing to be careful about is stopping behind a truck if on a hill, I've seen trucks roll back 2 to 3 feet before getting enough clutch to move forward, even if I'm in a car I stay about 6 to 8 feet back from a truck on a hill if we're stopped.

That's just what I do, everyone has to do what they think is good for them, but I'm allergic to pain, and dying too early, and now that I'm older it takes a lot longer to heal if I'm injured.
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^^^^^^^^^^^^

This, and I'll add my rule for passing buses at stop
As I approach from behind I'll eyeball the passengers waiting to board, and/or, if possible, those inside waiting to get off. A decent crowd means the bus will stay put, giving me time to pass. Nobody or a lone person means the driver is getting ready to pull back out into the road, so no pass unless I'm 100% SURE the driver knows I'm there.

Passing trucks and buses or not isn't a question of yes or never, it's a question of when and how.
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