Non solvent solvent tank substitutions
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Non solvent solvent tank substitutions
We have a functioning solvent tank/parts washer at my local coop.
Way back in the dark ages, I used mineral spirits or similar solvent purchased from my local oil jobber. California outlawed that stuff about 20 years ago, so it's a no go now.
Anyone got any ideas for cleaning out heavy and dried out grease, or cleaning up gunked up cassettes?
Way back in the dark ages, I used mineral spirits or similar solvent purchased from my local oil jobber. California outlawed that stuff about 20 years ago, so it's a no go now.
Anyone got any ideas for cleaning out heavy and dried out grease, or cleaning up gunked up cassettes?
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Dawn dish detergent, citrus cleaner, then denatured alcohol. Simple green works as well.
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Safety Kleen / Armakleen make a full line of aqueous parts washer chemicals.
https://www.safety-kleen.com/product...nt-chemistries
https://www.safety-kleen.com/product...nt-chemistries
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Safety Clean is great - The auto restoration shops I worked in (years ago) had that set up.
The only thing, is that IIRC, you have to set up an account with them, and rent their parts washers, etc.
If the co-op can pay for it, certainly the way to go.
The only thing, is that IIRC, you have to set up an account with them, and rent their parts washers, etc.
If the co-op can pay for it, certainly the way to go.
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Safety Kleen / Armakleen make a full line of aqueous parts washer chemicals.
https://www.safety-kleen.com/product...nt-chemistries
https://www.safety-kleen.com/product...nt-chemistries
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They might have a discount for non-profit or community service organizations. A five minute phone call can't hurt. You never know unless you ask.
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Odorless Mineral Spirits is still very available here in San Diego at all hardware stores and many other counties in Cali. You might check around some other areas on your next trip out of SM.
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I used to be in a automotive service related business. You can't use any of those solvents in California for a host of regulatory reasons.
I agree, but it's not cost effective. I know the guy who came up with the filter that Safety Kleen uses in their service. His employer made tens of millions on his work.
It tried, it's a no go. I need like two gallons of something that I can buy over the counter that isn't a petroleum distillate, because....
Oh, I can get mineral spirits or diesel just fine, it's just not legal to use in that way. I don't want to put the co op in the cross hairs of environmental health or air quality management. Using that sort of material is asking for problems from local authorities. Nobody has had a solvent tank like this in over 20 years, notwithstanding I'm in the home of the original "straw ban". And the CoOp board of directors would likely frown upon it.
At this juncture, Im inclined to get an ultrasonic parts cleaner and use Zep Citrus Degreaser at full strength, and trash the solvent tank.
Safety Kleen / Armakleen make a full line of aqueous parts washer chemicals.
https://www.safety-kleen.com/product...nt-chemistries
https://www.safety-kleen.com/product...nt-chemistries
At this juncture, Im inclined to get an ultrasonic parts cleaner and use Zep Citrus Degreaser at full strength, and trash the solvent tank.
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Do you have an ultrasonic cleaner? It should help no matter what you choose to use as a solvent. Many of them also have a heat mode.
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I bought this https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
for cleaning clock parts. It seemed to clean my bike cassettes better than OMS.
for cleaning clock parts. It seemed to clean my bike cassettes better than OMS.
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Talk to your local auto parts store. They should have some ideas.
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They haven't had any solutions for 20 years. Well, they have, but they aren't legal in California.
This isn't my AQMD, but it'll give you an idea of what it's like:
https://www.baaqmd.gov/~/media/files/..._16_102104.pdf
This isn't my AQMD, but it'll give you an idea of what it's like:
https://www.baaqmd.gov/~/media/files/..._16_102104.pdf
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What's the deal with that in CA?
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Evaporate on the back porch? Then dump the solids?
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https://www.dtsc.ca.gov/PollutionPre...leanAuto02.pdf
I sincerely appreciate you saying that, but I assure you I'm not.
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Ultrasonic cleaner. It'll buzz off a ton of caked on goo even with just water and a bit of heat. Even a small-medium sized on from Harbor Freight will do cassettes. and chains
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I've done a lot of work in environmental remediation, but I'm not an expert. Two things:
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Detergent and ultrasonics may need some help for "heavy and dried out grease...gunk." Bureaucrats want you to think and act in black and white, e.g. total ban vs. fines and penalties, but regulations have limits. The best solution is in the middle ground. What are the limits of the regulations and allowed uses? Maybe for pre-soak, a smaller quantity of VOCs in a closed container or maybe spray with an even smaller quantity then cover and let stand could be OK? Something else? The regulators will not help you find anything other than their agenda.
2. Detergent needs water for maximum effect. Depending on the packaged concentration, you'll almost certainly need dilution.
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2. Detergent needs water for maximum effect. Depending on the packaged concentration, you'll almost certainly need dilution.
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Don't waste your time with the Zep Citrus and Ultra cleaner. I've tried this combo and does next to nothing for heavy spooge grease such as on chains and bearings even with hot solution.
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I think I have found a solution.
Update: we are going to purchase one of these:
https://www.amazon.com/OEMTOOLS-2480.../dp/B01GSKA1CM
And use this aqueous parts cleaning solution:
https://chemfree.com/portfolio-items...rtfolioCats=47
Total cost will be budget friendly under $250, and if properly maintained, should last indefinately, with no MSDS, fire, OSHA, or AQMD concerns.
Thank you to everyone who helped!
Update: we are going to purchase one of these:
https://www.amazon.com/OEMTOOLS-2480.../dp/B01GSKA1CM
And use this aqueous parts cleaning solution:
https://chemfree.com/portfolio-items...rtfolioCats=47
Total cost will be budget friendly under $250, and if properly maintained, should last indefinately, with no MSDS, fire, OSHA, or AQMD concerns.
Thank you to everyone who helped!
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Budget for gloves :
https://www.amazon.com/Chemical-Resi...ateway&sr=8-22
Those thin, stretchy, nitrile disposables won't work for this kind of duty.
https://www.amazon.com/Chemical-Resi...ateway&sr=8-22
Those thin, stretchy, nitrile disposables won't work for this kind of duty.