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Old 08-17-22, 05:15 AM
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531 mimicry

Spotted this; aside from the "NOT made with..." decals this is so blatant a mimic it's laughable.

Any other charlatans?


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Old 08-17-22, 06:30 AM
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Old 08-17-22, 06:48 AM
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Araya had a good one... let's see if this pic works.
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Old 08-17-22, 07:20 AM
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Liberia tubing on an Oscar Egg, initially thought charlatan was the word, but then smiled and saw that rather as self-irony… or maybe I’m too naive…
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Old 08-17-22, 07:23 AM
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Not mine, but this one is pretty obvious
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So even shape counts?

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Originally Posted by Rocket-Sauce
Not mine, but this one is pretty obvious
Actually owned by TI/Reynolds on this one.
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I love how they can't even spell Tubing.



Borrowed from bikeretrogrouch.blogspot.com without permission, I hope the proprietor doesn't mind the plug...


The "Awesome" decal isn't trying to fool anyone, it's just being awesome!




This last one was made by Bob Freeman, and it went on a bike that really was made of Reynolds 853, so it's not a ripoff, it's a tribute — albeit probably still technically a copyright infringement. I hope Reynolds would approve.

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I believe at least the Reynolds 501 and Raleigh 555 refer to the percentages of the same respective three elements (don't ask me to recall what they are) referred to in 531, 753, 853, etc, so they're not really "mimics". No idea about the others.

Let's not forget Peugeot Carbolite 103.
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Old 08-17-22, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by madpogue
I believe at least the Reynolds 501 and Raleigh 555 refer to the percentages of the same respective three elements (don't ask me to recall what they are) referred to in 531, 753, 853, etc, so they're not really "mimics". No idea about the others.

Let's not forget Peugeot Carbolite 103.
501 is a pretty decent seamed tube I think.
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Originally Posted by rhm
Araya had a good one... let's see if this pic works.
"...but this one goes to eleven, y'see..."
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koga Miyata - sorta kinda reynold mimic ish ???


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With apologies to @familyguy
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These are hysterical. A great addition to the Crappy Tubing Parody Decals (or some such name) thread. :
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Originally Posted by madpogue
I believe at least the Reynolds 501 and Raleigh 555 refer to the percentages of the same respective three elements (don't ask me to recall what they are) referred to in 531, 753, 853, etc, so they're not really "mimics". No idea about the others.
I don't think that's correct, though I have heard it reported many times over the years. "531" may have referred to some ratio of elements early on (though I'm skeptical of even that), but it's composition changed over the years, yet the numbers didn't.
Plus, 753 and 531 are the same alloy, with and without the quenched-and-tempered heat treatment. How could they have different numbers if they're a "formula" for the alloy?

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Where is the "420" blunt one?
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Originally Posted by bulgie
I don't think that's correct, though I have heard it reported many times over the years. "531" may have referred to some ratio of elements early on (though I'm skeptical of even that), but it's composition changed over the years, yet the numbers didn't.
Plus, 753 and 531 are the same alloy, with and without the quenched-and-tempered heat treatment. How could they have different numbers if they're a "formula" for the alloy?

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OK, that would explain where the notion originated. So file it next to "don't mix conventional and synthetic oil", etc....
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Reynolds had a booth at the 2015 NAHBS in Louisville, so I had to get a shot! I don't think I told them "you are my hero's", but I'm sure that was the vibe I was giving off.
I was wearing an old Raleigh Team jersey at the time, so they knew I was a fan (or a lunatic?)



full resolution version: https://live.staticflickr.com/8719/1...c7444_5k_d.jpg

You can see just how many versions of bike tubing that they made then. Pretty impressive, and a bit confusing, maybe.

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Originally Posted by dedhed

Where is the "420" blunt one?
Columbus was ahead of the game and beat them to it:



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Originally Posted by Drillium Dude
Columbus was ahead of the game and beat them to it:



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Found it.

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