1980s Japanese bike with Tange Prestige tubing?
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I had this for a little while, not sure where it was made, but with all the other Prestige examples I thought I'd post here anyway.
I bought this as a frame to build up, that never happened. Someone put a pretty offer up for the frame and away she went.
It is a Excel Kashmir Professional
I bought this as a frame to build up, that never happened. Someone put a pretty offer up for the frame and away she went.
It is a Excel Kashmir Professional
It's also worth noting that the fork decal on all the samples I've seen, including yours, use the standard Tange CrMo fork decal, indicating that at least the fork is not Prestige. Given that, there's a good chance that the stays are also a standard CrMo and that only the main tubes are Prestige.
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I've seen a couple of these in the past. The samples I've seen were outfitted with the Rapidfire version of Shimano Deore XT, which placed them no earlier than 1990. It's interesting to note how the rear derailleur cable is routed along the top tube and down the seat stay, yet the front derailleur cable still routes on the down tube. Shimano brought out their top pull front derailleurs for the 1992 model year, so it should be pre-1992. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to collect any serial numbers, so I don't know who may have manufactured them.
It's also worth noting that the fork decal on all the samples I've seen, including yours, use the standard Tange CrMo fork decal, indicating that at least the fork is not Prestige. Given that, there's a good chance that the stays are also a standard CrMo and that only the main tubes are Prestige.
It's also worth noting that the fork decal on all the samples I've seen, including yours, use the standard Tange CrMo fork decal, indicating that at least the fork is not Prestige. Given that, there's a good chance that the stays are also a standard CrMo and that only the main tubes are Prestige.
I've done the same process on some a Tange 2 and 531 frames, and on the Kashmir it was a lot more pressure than it took on the others.
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Even though they're thinner walled, the heat treated steels do take significantly more effort to cold set. Then again, so do the larger diameter and thicker walled MTB stays. It's hard to say which it might be.
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forgive me for resurrecting this thread but I have a contribution, curb find. 1990s (?) Giant with Tange Prestige superlight
The frame weighs 4.7lbs and the fork 1.4 something weird (sloppy finishing?) in the bottom bracket shell.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/YGy4assobRCqx1tC7
The frame weighs 4.7lbs and the fork 1.4 something weird (sloppy finishing?) in the bottom bracket shell.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/YGy4assobRCqx1tC7
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I've been tasked with finding a 1980s vintage Japanese steel road bike that is constructed from Tange Prestige. Anyone have some brands/models that come to mind? I know Panasonic and I believe Nishiki had Tange Prestige models. Other than that I'm drawing a blank. Ideas?

this is my new Shogun Ninja frankenbike. It is a 1989 Shogun Ninja with Tange Prestige pipes. Fully lugged, double butted I believe.
Important to get it from 1989, earlier years had worse pipes, later years came from South Korea and weren't even in the same ballpark, I'm told.
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maybe 3rd times the charm? I'm creating a shared album and it just completely disappears, and copy and pasting the images here seems to disappear after a while too.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/LpuG2RwyiY9avn7AA




https://photos.app.goo.gl/LpuG2RwyiY9avn7AA





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maybe 3rd times the charm? I'm creating a shared album and it just completely disappears, and copy and pasting the images here seems to disappear after a while too.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/LpuG2RwyiY9avn7AA
https://photos.app.goo.gl/LpuG2RwyiY9avn7AA
The crankset and headset are both Shimano 105 SC which, if OEM, puts it into the 1990s. However, it has down tube cable stops for brifters (it's unlikely that they're for bar end shifters) which, if OEM, would push things forward to at least 1993.
The logo style is also that introduced in 1990 but I don't recall them pairing it with their globe symbol. It's also strange seeing them have the logo on both the down and top tube. Typically, the top tube position was reserved for the model name/number.
During this era, my recollection is that Giant typically used 105SC and above on their alternate material frames, either aluminum or carbon fibre. Lower level road frames typical used Giant branded CrMo.
Nothing is adding up for me, based on my experience with Giant bicycles in the North American market. It would be interesting to have the serial number. It may reveal the year and source.
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Oh, this is interesting! The moment I saw the stay end finishing my thoughts went to Panasonic. Then I saw the Made In Japan sticker. Giant is a Taiwanese company and I'm not aware of them having contracted out manufacture.
The crankset and headset are both Shimano 105 SC which, if OEM, puts it into the 1990s. However, it has down tube cable stops for brifters (it's unlikely that they're for bar end shifters) which, if OEM, would push things forward to at least 1993.
The logo style is also that introduced in 1990 but I don't recall them pairing it with their globe symbol. It's also strange seeing them have the logo on both the down and top tube. Typically, the top tube position was reserved for the model name/number.
During this era, my recollection is that Giant typically used 105SC and above on their alternate material frames, either aluminum or carbon fibre. Lower level road frames typical used Giant branded CrMo.
Nothing is adding up for me, based on my experience with Giant bicycles in the North American market. It would be interesting to have the serial number. It may reveal the year and source.
The crankset and headset are both Shimano 105 SC which, if OEM, puts it into the 1990s. However, it has down tube cable stops for brifters (it's unlikely that they're for bar end shifters) which, if OEM, would push things forward to at least 1993.
The logo style is also that introduced in 1990 but I don't recall them pairing it with their globe symbol. It's also strange seeing them have the logo on both the down and top tube. Typically, the top tube position was reserved for the model name/number.
During this era, my recollection is that Giant typically used 105SC and above on their alternate material frames, either aluminum or carbon fibre. Lower level road frames typical used Giant branded CrMo.
Nothing is adding up for me, based on my experience with Giant bicycles in the North American market. It would be interesting to have the serial number. It may reveal the year and source.
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Zunow Hummingbird

Concorde- Model name unknown as I do not see any name on the top tube. I do see the five world champion colors ( in a different order) on the down tube, I wonder if that is a hint for the model name?

This is a post of VS3's bike posted on another thread.

Post #13 is hard to see. The above is still a too small pic of the '92 Diamondback Prevail TG. Also produced in 1991.

1994. Also produced in '93

TartandTangy's Bianchi Equinox. Produced in 90/91 only?

The most expensive: Colnago Prestige Decor
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Ja KrazyMB's from Velospace: 1993 Novaro Team

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