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Silver downtube shifters

Old 01-03-12, 06:19 PM
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Silver downtube shifters

Considering buying a set of these Silver shifters from Rivendell for an 80's bike with Shimano 600 levers that won't stay put. They are actually shaped a lot like the Shimanos and the description sounds like they may be worth it. Wondering if anyone has any experience with them?
https://www.rivbike.com/product-p/sh11.htm
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I have a Jamis with them, my Riv uses the barend version and have ridden a few other bikes with other brands/types of downtube shifters and I think the silvers are among the best. I like the look of the old campagnolo downtube shifters better, but the silvers work better. Of course they are only friction shifting so if you want indexed downtube shifters you need to look elsewhere. The silvers are really smooth operating but they also stay put and don't ghostshift, assuming they are tightened enough. They just work well.
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I have a set as bar-ends also and I think they are the best fiction shifters that I have tried.
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Thanks for the input. The RD is index capable, but I'm only caring about friction shifting for this bike.
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I bought a pair of these from VO several years back. I had been using Shimano's 8-sp DT indexed shifters.
I wound up sending the VO shifters back and converting to Shimano 9-sp Deore DT shifters.
What I didn't like about the VO shifters (which I believe are exactly the same as the Riv version) is the ratchet. You move the shifter to bring the RD into your gear selection and the shifter "falls back" to the nearest ratchet. This fall back effectively un-trims the shift, putting you slightly off gear. So, you must learn how to slightly over shift to let the shifter fall back to a (hopefully) correct trim. Argh!

I'd love to see VO/Riv bring out a true friction shifter with out ratchet. ie campy's record era.

Try em. Maybe you'll love em.
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I've always seen the ratcheting as a plus. I usually have to over shift slightly to get the chain to move to the desired gear and letting it fall to the next ratchet stop trims it fine.

Spiff: I have some old Suntour friction DT shifters that don't ratchet if you'd like to try them. I don't need them.





A little different style than Shimanos....
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Originally Posted by Doohickie
Spiff: I have some old Suntour friction DT shifters that don't ratchet if you'd like to try them. I don't need them.
Thanks. I'll let you know. Might try again to get the original 600EX levers to hold better. Not in a rush, as this is a spare bike.
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Originally Posted by Yo Spiff
Thanks. I'll let you know. Might try again to get the original 600EX levers to hold better. Not in a rush, as this is a spare bike.
Is the screw very tight, but the lever is still too loose ?
Maybe you're missing a washer or one of the internals is flipped ?
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Thanks. It's been updated since then.
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I'd search Ebay for a nice set of Dura Ace or 600 shifters. Even a set of Suntour Superbe's would look really nice and work very nice as well.
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I'm not an expert on these things, but on the set of 7400s I picked up recently there is a little star washer inside. It is worn (kind of squished by the pressure from tightening them down), and I believe it is the cause of the slippage I was getting. I fixed it by just going indexed, but I wonder if the washer was replaced it might fix the problem we're having.
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Originally Posted by Commodus
I'm not an expert on these things, but on the set of 7400s I picked up recently there is a little star washer inside. It is worn (kind of squished by the pressure from tightening them down), and I believe it is the cause of the slippage I was getting. I fixed it by just going indexed, but I wonder if the washer was replaced it might fix the problem we're having.
I do think there is a washer worn. I tighten it down fully and the lever still slips under tension. I roughed up the mating surfaces a little and it holds better than before, but still not great. I guess if I do a little research, I can find some appropriate replacement internals.
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The washer wears on DT shifters and that causes the problem. Back in the day it was an easy fix but nowadays I'd imagine spare parts are rare to non-existent. Have heard good things about the Riv shifters but haven't used them. I friction shift my FD even on modern bikes due to circumstances pretty much unique to myself and use SunTours that I regularly find on eBay but they are ratcheting.
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I don't think those washers are special. At work I have bins full of 'em, various sizes. Maybe the size is odd, but worth have a look into.
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