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Old 10-11-21, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Wow, so much anger against dogs.
I like dogs, but many of their owners are idiots.
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I'm waiting to see the effect of the demotivation. I'm thinking that the line is somewhere around 300 total miles fewer than the previous week.
If we really want to stack the deck, we should separate into USDA hardiness zones.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Does Jeff Bezos fill all the Amazon orders?
At BEST your venture is a volunteer venture. When you start paying folks even *I* will participate.
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If we really want to stack the deck, we should separate into USDA hardiness zones.
wut
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Old 10-11-21, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by datlas
If we really want to stack the deck, we should separate into USDA hardiness zones.
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wut
Yes. How about 7+ for one side and <7 for the other. That way you and I are not on the same team.
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Originally Posted by datlas
Yes. How about 7+ for one side and <7 for the other. That way you and I are not on the same team.
If this is what you're talking about, we're in the same zone.


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Yes, but if I tried that approach my idea would get sidetracked in a hurry.
You have to fail to succeed. As they say.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
If this is what you're talking about, we're in the same zone.


I believe you are 6b and I am 7a. Close is not quite the same as the same.
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Does Jeff Bezos fill all the Amazon orders?
So, you have over-worked employees taking care of the challenge?
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Originally Posted by datlas
I believe you are 6b and I am 7a. Close is not quite the same as the same.
Nope.


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They’ve got to treat that as a ground rule double. It can’t be a homer because it didn’t clear the wall on a fly, and it can’t be a live ball because it bounced out of play. They just have to make sure it wasn’t nudged out of play intentionally.
They need to allow latitude with the lead runner for umpire or booth review and placing him in a more realistic position. This has been an issue for years. That runner should have been counted as a run scored.
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Originally Posted by rjones28
So, you have over-worked employees taking care of the challenge?
I'm the idea guy, I came up with the vision. I shouldn't have to do all the grunt work.
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Dog walkers are the worst.
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Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours!
that's about 6 weeks early. Today is Columbus Day.
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Now we're arguing about hardiness zones.
SMFH
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I'm hearing reports of snow in the Sierra Nevadas this morning.

Hardiness required.
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I'm hearing reports of snow in the Sierra Nevadas this morning.

Hardiness required.

it was raining and windy this morning does that count?
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C19 shot 3 in the tank.
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C19 shot 3 in the tank.

wut
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wut
AKA booster shot
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They need to allow latitude with the lead runner for umpire or booth review and placing him in a more realistic position. This has been an issue for years. That runner should have been counted as a run scored.
I would agree that the Rays got the short end of the deal, but the rule was applied correctly. There is no provision in the rule for the umpires to judge where to place the runners. The MLB Umpire Manual clarifies that it's 2 bases from the time of the pitch. The only judgement is whether or not the ball was intentionally deflected out of play. If it was intentional, it would be 2 bases from the time of deflection.
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I would agree that the Rays got the short end of the deal, but the rule was applied correctly. There is no provision in the rule for the umpires to judge where to place the runners. The MLB Umpire Manual clarifies that it's 2 bases from the time of the pitch. The only judgement is whether or not the ball was intentionally deflected out of play. If it was intentional, it would be 2 bases from the time of deflection.
I guess I wasn't clear they need to change the rule.
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I guess I wasn't clear they need to change the rule.
Maybe. Red Sox fans probably would not agree - LOL. What do you see as a better rule for this situation? Personally, I'm okay with how it's currently written.

Also... Go, Dodgers!
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They need to allow latitude with the lead runner for umpire or booth review and placing him in a more realistic position. This has been an issue for years. That runner should have been counted as a run scored.
Where did he start from, 2nd base?

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