Shimano 105 RD-5501 - Replace for 11-32 cassette?
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Shimano 105 RD-5501 - Replace for 11-32 cassette?
A friend asked me to replace the replace the rear cassette on her Jamis Ventura road bike with one that has a much larger range so it's easier for her to climb hills.
Right now, the bike has a 9 speed Shimano 105 RD-5501 rear derailleur with what looks to be a long cage (a GS?). The rear cassette that's on there is an SRAM 12-23, and the front chain rings are a triple, with the largest having 52 teeth and the smallest having 30. I believe that gives a chain wrap of 23-12 + 52-30= 33.
The specs on the RD-5501 say that :
27 is the largest amount of teeth it can handle. Smallest is 11. Front chain ring difference is 22. Total capacity is 37 ( I assume that's chain wrap)
I figured I could get by with an 11-28 cassette and a max chain wrap of 39 and that was worth a try.
However, she wants more than that-- Something like 11-32.
I'm not real confident that the RD-5501 would even handle that cassette. That would add 10 teeth to the chain wrap making it 43 and I doubt the B screw would have anywhere near enough adjustment to even try it.
I'm thinking I need to replace the rear derailleur with a mountain bike model to get that kind of gearing. Can anyone recommend a model that would be compatible with a 9 speed cassette and the 105 shifters on this bike?
Maybe a Shimano XT M771 9 speed?
Or, does anyone have any other suggestions on how I can accomplish this?
Thanks
Right now, the bike has a 9 speed Shimano 105 RD-5501 rear derailleur with what looks to be a long cage (a GS?). The rear cassette that's on there is an SRAM 12-23, and the front chain rings are a triple, with the largest having 52 teeth and the smallest having 30. I believe that gives a chain wrap of 23-12 + 52-30= 33.
The specs on the RD-5501 say that :
27 is the largest amount of teeth it can handle. Smallest is 11. Front chain ring difference is 22. Total capacity is 37 ( I assume that's chain wrap)
I figured I could get by with an 11-28 cassette and a max chain wrap of 39 and that was worth a try.
However, she wants more than that-- Something like 11-32.
I'm not real confident that the RD-5501 would even handle that cassette. That would add 10 teeth to the chain wrap making it 43 and I doubt the B screw would have anywhere near enough adjustment to even try it.
I'm thinking I need to replace the rear derailleur with a mountain bike model to get that kind of gearing. Can anyone recommend a model that would be compatible with a 9 speed cassette and the 105 shifters on this bike?
Maybe a Shimano XT M771 9 speed?
Or, does anyone have any other suggestions on how I can accomplish this?
Thanks
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Just about any Shimano 9 speed spec ATB will be compatible with 9 speed road shifters. We use the Deore RD-M591 as a conversion to lower gears often. You can run a 32 or 34 tooth low cog easily and even could change out the 30 tooth granny ring for a 28 with very little ft shift differences.
As compact double cranks have gotten to be the road bike standard we do this type of conversion on customers old bikes more and more often. The industry seems to forget that riders age and loose strength over time. What might have been good enough a low gear when one is 45 or 55 often isn't 10 years later. Yet in those 10 years the industry sees fit to make most low gears harder on the "trendy" compact doubles. I have been told this is driven in a cause of saving their customers from themselves, the inability to learn how to shift a ft der nicely on a triple. Andy (getting off his soapbox)
As compact double cranks have gotten to be the road bike standard we do this type of conversion on customers old bikes more and more often. The industry seems to forget that riders age and loose strength over time. What might have been good enough a low gear when one is 45 or 55 often isn't 10 years later. Yet in those 10 years the industry sees fit to make most low gears harder on the "trendy" compact doubles. I have been told this is driven in a cause of saving their customers from themselves, the inability to learn how to shift a ft der nicely on a triple. Andy (getting off his soapbox)
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Just about any Shimano 9 speed spec ATB will be compatible with 9 speed road shifters. We use the Deore RD-M591 as a conversion to lower gears often. You can run a 32 or 34 tooth low cog easily and even could change out the 30 tooth granny ring for a 28 with very little ft shift differences.
As compact double cranks have gotten to be the road bike standard we do this type of conversion on customers old bikes more and more often. The industry seems to forget that riders age and loose strength over time. What might have been good enough a low gear when one is 45 or 55 often isn't 10 years later. Yet in those 10 years the industry sees fit to make most low gears harder on the "trendy" compact doubles. I have been told this is driven in a cause of saving their customers from themselves, the inability to learn how to shift a ft der nicely on a triple. Andy (getting off his soapbox)
As compact double cranks have gotten to be the road bike standard we do this type of conversion on customers old bikes more and more often. The industry seems to forget that riders age and loose strength over time. What might have been good enough a low gear when one is 45 or 55 often isn't 10 years later. Yet in those 10 years the industry sees fit to make most low gears harder on the "trendy" compact doubles. I have been told this is driven in a cause of saving their customers from themselves, the inability to learn how to shift a ft der nicely on a triple. Andy (getting off his soapbox)
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Using Shimano 9-speed MTB rear derailleurs with Shimano 10-speed Road shifters is extremely common in the touring world. Most 9-speed Shimano MTB rear ders are good for a 34t cog and some are good for 36t.
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I set up my wife's triple road bike (8 speed) with an XT 750 RD and a 12-34 cassette. You can use the XT 771 RD with a 11-34 cassette. This gives you a 26t, 30t, and 34t cogs.
I also swapped out her 50t chainring for a 46t. That really isn't necessary, but she would never be pushing a 12t with a 50t ring. The 46t gave her more use with a 39t and a 30t.
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I also swapped out her 50t chainring for a 46t. That really isn't necessary, but she would never be pushing a 12t with a 50t ring. The 46t gave her more use with a 39t and a 30t.
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Thanks to all for the advice and suggestions-- I ordered the Deore RD-M591, an SRAM PG950 11-32 Cassette and a new KMC X.993 chain. Should make the hills a lot easier...
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