What happened to high flange hubs?
06-15-21, 12:36 PM
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Maybe I just swallowed a hook, but I believed the guy that told me that high flange hubs originated back in the day of fixed gears as it allowed a spoke to be changed on the road without having to having to wrestle the sprocket off. That same logic would explain the hi/lo hub.
I have violated this on several of my bikes from time to time, but I like the look of ornate lugs with centerpull brakes and high flange hubs. With its very simple lugs, my Bianchi just looks right with sidepull brakes and low flange hubs. Sort of a 1960s vs. 1980s thing. I also find it interesting that the Peugeot UO-8 came with quick release high flange hubs and half-chrome forks, whereas the bargain version AO-8 came with wingnutted low flange hubs and painted forks (and sprint/half-taped handlebars).
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06-15-21, 02:09 PM
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There are NO FUNCTIONAL DIFFERENCES between small and large flange hubs. Large flange hubs are small compared to the size of the wheel, and the differences between what we call small and large are negligible. There was a widespread belief in the 1970s that a small flange hub would feel more flexible because the spokes are longer. But we don't lean on the middle of a spoke, we pull it end-to-end, and the end-to-end stretching is no different between a 295mm spoke and a 290mm spoke. As Jobst Brandt pointed out, the difference in stiffness between any two wheels is not discernible because the tire flexes FAR MORE than any wheel does.
Some people say they can feel the difference. They haven't done double blind tests.
Some people say they can feel the difference. They haven't done double blind tests.
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06-15-21, 02:33 PM
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Uh...??? I see certain risks involved.
I now have, for the first time, two bikes with small flange; other than aesthetics, I don't notice anything.
I now have, for the first time, two bikes with small flange; other than aesthetics, I don't notice anything.
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06-16-21, 07:07 AM
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They certainly look good. Now that you mention them they are another plus for vintage bikes!
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06-16-21, 09:08 PM
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By the time I started crying seriously in the early 80's, high flange hubs weren't what people longed for. Everything was going smaller and lighter, so all so-called performance bikes had small flsnge hubbed wheelsets, and large flange hubs just looked old tech.... like wing nuts on solid axles....... But now I still can't quite relate to modern through axles and the proliferation of radial spoked wheelsets. Everything just eventually moves on through the years....
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06-16-21, 09:45 PM
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thru axles are really a boon for suspension and disc brakes. radial = cool factor??
i have had some tipo and some shimano HF hubs, both very nice looking. kinda wish i'd kept the shimano ones
i have had some tipo and some shimano HF hubs, both very nice looking. kinda wish i'd kept the shimano ones
