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Old 05-23-20, 09:27 AM
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Resuming club rides as COVID-19 wanes

My club is resuming rides June 6, and I'm seeing many clubs thinking about starting up an abbreviated ride schedule. In our case, we conducted our own risk assessment, met with our officers and ride coordinators, and then made the decision to pilot a few "all-pace" rides (rides are normally divided into 3-5 groups based on ability). Part of the decision to resume was the state announcement relaxing rules for outdoor gatherings (allowing groups up to 25 people). We plan to require masks for the parking lot and café stops, but not while riding. Rides will go out in small groups (5 or fewer). No pace lines. Spacing between bikes is encouraged, and no side-by-side.

Are any of you considering resuming club rides? What risk factors are you evaluating?
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Old 05-23-20, 09:28 AM
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It's not really waning they just gave up on containing it.
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Don’t know where you live. But it’s not waning here in Wisconsin. We had some our worst days for new cases this week, even factoring in more testing. I’m not a club rider, so I may not understand the appeal. But the risk is higher than zero and the benefit is? The precautionary principle would indicate that it’s best to ride solo.
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Originally Posted by Oneder View Post
It's not really waning they just gave up on containing it.
You really should look up the definition of the word ‘waning’
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Old 05-23-20, 10:48 AM
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Thanks for everyone's feedback. I was hoping for comments from other club riders as to how you're evaluating the timing of resuming rides.
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Old 05-23-20, 11:11 AM
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It's insane to think that it's safer now. Covid19 cases are still going up. Resuming group activities as before is only going to accelerate this. People we see now shopping without a mask, are going to feel sorry and stupid after their family members become ill.
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Old 05-23-20, 11:18 AM
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Remember, there is about a 50% chance you can have this without having any symptoms. Are you comfortable being a potential spreader? What if someone in the club gets it and becomes seriously ill or worse, or passes it along to some other family member or coworker or something who then dies?

Biking now is probably safe, solo. Any activity with other people will have risks.

I try to avoid the avoidable risks.

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Old 05-23-20, 11:18 AM
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It's definitely not safer or going down, silly people could think that. However I am not as worried about it as before. I had it already and was not a huge deal. I was fasting then though and likely that is why it went, illnesses always go quick for me when I fast. My mom and brother in law got it and it lasted 3 weeks and was much worse but still not horrible. But I do know two who have died and they were just in their 40s so don't blow it off and think it's nothing either but on the other hand it's not the appocalypse.

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Old 05-23-20, 12:10 PM
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Waning? I cannot express the rage at that statement. Nothing is waning, it is just getting worse and worse because everyone is so worried about themselves and their own personal activities. They don't care about everyone else and just want to go back to whatever they want. We are not at the point of waning it is bad and about to get worse. We might have gotten the virus to wane if we had taken it seriously at the start of 2020 but unfortunately those in power did not so we are stuck with it for who knows how long.

The only thing that should continue right now is STAYING HOME, WEARING A MASK AND GLOVES ALWAYS IN PUBLIC AND ONLY GOING OUT FOR ESSENTIALS. If you need to ride your bike do it solo until this GLOBAL PANDEMIC IS OVER! I appreciate people are saying "well if we stay apart and yada yada" and that may be OK but the problem is everyone will want to go out and pretty soon the virus will spike again. I heard from a friend in MD that when they tried to open up 1800 cases were reported.

Look I want to resume some sort of new normalcy that doesn't involve what we are doing now but until we have the virus stopped and we have a working vaccine and not just theories and spoutings from random people who are not competent and licensed physicians and scientists, we won't have that.
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It's not "waning." I am not going on group rides. Good luck.
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Originally Posted by Hokiedad4 View Post
Thanks for everyone's feedback. I was hoping for comments from other club riders as to how you're evaluating the timing of resuming rides.
Pro tip: There is a forum for virus-related threads. Check it out.
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"Hey look! Social distancing is starting to work!"

"Great! Lets stop doing it!"

No, I am not doing group rides, and I think it is asinine to be doing them at this point. This is NOT an essential activity. If we are going to increase person to person exposures and therefore the risk of COVID-19 spreading again, we should be doing so for things that actually matter, like people going back to work.

This of course has been predicted for a while: Once things stop getting worse, people will start to slack off, and things with roar back again.
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The only group rides I've been doing are the ones with my son and daughter - people I live with.
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The actions taken against covid 19's spread didn't prevent it spreading. They delayed it spreading.

That is what we're seeing, after all..
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Originally Posted by Hokiedad4 View Post
Thanks for everyone's feedback. I was hoping for comments from other club riders as to how you're evaluating the timing of resuming rides.
You just lit a match in room full of gasoline fumes, what did you expect the outcome would be?

Maybe in a few months, but world leaders are really just experimenting at the moment to try and get economies going again.
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"In chess, the pawns go first."
early April I was caught saying “after the weak die off” - senseless or insensitive jibing tempting fate upon myself but it came out
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None of the clubs I ride with (4 of them) are even considering resuming. If you do ride you might talk to your group about snot rockets; my favorite club lecture subject in the past. Cyclists do not get it that they blow a cloud of aerosol particles all over the place and then their friends get the privilege of riding through it. At the very least everyone should be wearing a mask while riding but I think the whole idea of group riding right now is just dumb. We could call for Darwin Awards with these activities.

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Are any of you considering resuming club rides? What risk factors are you evaluating?
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You just lit a match in room full of gasoline fumes, what did you expect the outcome would be?
It is going exactly as planned. It is a troll thread.
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Originally Posted by Hokiedad4 View Post
We plan to require masks for the parking lot and café stops, but not while riding. Rides will go out in small groups (5 or fewer). No pace lines. Spacing between bikes is encouraged, and no side-by-side.

Are any of you considering resuming club rides? What risk factors are you evaluating?
I’m wondering if you all read the above. They aren’t in one big (or even small) paceline, and are spacing between bikes. The ride appear to be more of a dispersed ride than a group ride in the big paceline sense.

My comment to the OP:

The problem you are likely to have is that people will naturally tend to congregate. If it’s a big group, you will have major problems enforcing separation among the cyclists, and that is key.

You might want to consider smaller groups (3?) and make one person in the the small group responsible for enforcing the rules in their group in terms of separation in among their group members, and the other groups.
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Many folks I know and used to ride with never stopped group rides. They were coy about it, posting Strava logs claiming "social distancing rides, but I saw some of 'em along the routes I ride. They were just ordinary group rides, everyone within a bike length of each other.

They're mostly younger and healthy. They probably won't get sick. But they're taking a huge risk of spreading it to people in the vulnerable demographics: over age 65, existing health conditions, etc.

I'm in the grey zone for risk, early 60s, some health issues including chronic respiratory inflammation. So I'm avoiding most gatherings out of self protection. In fact I stopped most group rides last autumn when my upper respiratory problems suddenly worsened. I didn't know whether I was sick, if it was allergies, or just another symptom of my auto immune disorder. I didn't want to risk infecting anyone else so I discontinued group rides last October or November, long before this coronavirus hit the news. So the past few months haven't been a change for me. I still ride 400-500 miles a month, mostly in rural and quiet suburban area highways and access roads. Very little traffic, hardly ever see another person -- maybe one or two cyclists or joggers.

I'm the only person in my apartment building taking any precautions. Many folks have continued social gatherings as usual. As far as I know, nobody in this building has gotten sick from COVID-19. Maybe they're just lucky and it hasn't hit them yet. But if things go as they usually do with every epidemic and pandemic, this winter will be brutal when the second wave hits people who've become complacent.

Some of those folks who've continued group rides throughout the mythical "lockdown" are friends. But I won't ride with them again anytime soon. Some are in their 50s-early 60s. It'll be interesting to see whether they remain healthy this year.

Some of them turned out to be crackpots as well, spouting bizarre conspiracy theories. I'll never ride or associate with them again. I don't want to be anywhere near the splatter zone of their BS.
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