Which Daccordi model is this?
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Which Daccordi model is this?
I usually give Italian bikes with well-known names a wide berth when perusing the classifieds. Overpriced bling, and not particularly rare or interesting, IMHO.
However, when this Daccordi showed up, priced as if it were a run-of-the-mill Gazelle, I stopped to look. It may have been the chrome, the OTT paint job, or just a drink too many, but I bought it.
I just picked it up, but can't seem to find what model it actually is. The paint job suggests 1990, but I haven't been able to match it to any model so far. Any ideas?
The tubes are Columbus CROMOR, there's no panto on the top eyes, and it is equipped with Shimano 1050. Not sure if that is original to the bike.
However, when this Daccordi showed up, priced as if it were a run-of-the-mill Gazelle, I stopped to look. It may have been the chrome, the OTT paint job, or just a drink too many, but I bought it.
I just picked it up, but can't seem to find what model it actually is. The paint job suggests 1990, but I haven't been able to match it to any model so far. Any ideas?
The tubes are Columbus CROMOR, there's no panto on the top eyes, and it is equipped with Shimano 1050. Not sure if that is original to the bike.
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I don’t know what it is, but @Insidious C. Probably does. He has one very much like it, if not the same model.
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I usually give Italian bikes with well-known names a wide berth when perusing the classifieds. Overpriced bling, and not particularly rare or interesting, IMHO.
However, when this Daccordi showed up, priced as if it were a run-of-the-mill Gazelle, I stopped to look. It may have been the chrome, the OTT paint job, or just a drink too many, but I bought it.
I just picked it up, but can't seem to find what model it actually is. The paint job suggests 1990, but I haven't been able to match it to any model so far. Any ideas?
The tubes are Columbus CROMOR, there's no panto on the top eyes, and it is equipped with Shimano 1050. Not sure if that is original to the bike.
However, when this Daccordi showed up, priced as if it were a run-of-the-mill Gazelle, I stopped to look. It may have been the chrome, the OTT paint job, or just a drink too many, but I bought it.
I just picked it up, but can't seem to find what model it actually is. The paint job suggests 1990, but I haven't been able to match it to any model so far. Any ideas?
The tubes are Columbus CROMOR, there's no panto on the top eyes, and it is equipped with Shimano 1050. Not sure if that is original to the bike.
I don’t know what it is, but @Insidious C. Probably does. He has one very much like it, if not the same model.
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That style frame and paint scheme is on the cover of the 87 Daccordi catalog (can be found on bulgier,net). It is referred to in the catalog as "SL." Maybe a model name or maybe it was in reference to the tubeset. My frame is made from SLX. Go figure. I am curious if this Cromor frame is nickel plated. I am really impressed by how well my frame has held up. I assume that has to do with the nickel. Daccordi's were mostly sold as frames and built with whatever components the buyer wanted. Mine does have pantograph on the seat stay caps and fork crown but otherwise is the spitting image of the subject bike. So, after all the BS I just typed, the short answer is I don't know with certainty the model name of this frame or even if it has a name. I don't even know what model I have.
About that catalog: the accompanying price list on 2velo suggest it might be from 1990: Daccordi bicycle catalogs.
And yes, my frame has a sticker stating it has Nickel Protection:
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Getting somewhat closer. I just found what looks like a 1987 catalog at La Bible du Velo.
It shows the same is-it-a-boy-or-a-girl color scheme:
And also a model built with Cromor, and no top eye pantos:
The low resolution of the picture makes it hard to decipher the text. Something about a "cheaper" tre tube version at the bottom, it seems ...
It shows the same is-it-a-boy-or-a-girl color scheme:
And also a model built with Cromor, and no top eye pantos:
The low resolution of the picture makes it hard to decipher the text. Something about a "cheaper" tre tube version at the bottom, it seems ...
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One difference I find between my frame and the ones in the 1987 catalog is the brake bridge on my frame. Does this ring any bells?
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I want to know the technique to paint the frame that way. It is pretty awesome that it looks almost like a rainbow effect...
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I can't help with the model or vintage but I did get very lucky and found one today, plus the fellow threw in a box of odds and ends...
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Yes, I am beginning to understand why so many of my countrymen did.
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Nice catch! From a certain point in time Daccordi started pantographing the model name in the BB shell, I've been told. Acto? Octo? And on the other side?
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And while we're on the subject of Daccordi: they seem to have been in business since 1937, but the oldest bikes I am finding are from the eighties, maybe late seventies. What happened before that? Were they a subcontractor? Did they use a different name? Are my internet searching skills lacking?
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The models for Daccordi are a bit confusing, best I can figure is that you have their standard "Road Race" frame with cable routing on the toptube and built with cromor tubing. The paint job and tubing puts the frame as most likely being built in the late 80s or early 90s. It is interesting that the brake bridge is much more old fashioned compared to any of the frames I have seen with the era of paint.job. This combination would probably put the frame as the "entry level" in Daccordi's lineup (which would still be a great riding bike). The best way to date the frame would probably be based off of the Cromor tubing sticker (if it's before or after Trek's copyright lawsuit over "matrix")
randyjawa that is an "Original" as labeled on the non drive side of the bottom bracket. I'm not sure when the labeling started but non-drive side is the model, and drive side is the serial number for the bike. I'm not fully sure when they started doing the stamping on the bottom bracket, but you can see it in the early 90s catalog
There are many of their old catalogs on their facebook photo albums to help figure out what you might have. To confuse things I've also seen it labeled as the "DLX" by Euro-Asia Imports but I'm guessing that was just internal to them
Daccordi's history says that "In the 1960s the two co-founders left the helm of the company to Giuseppe’s son, Luigi Daccordi, who radically changed the company’s trademark. In addition to the creative skills inherited by his father, Luigi decided to create his own brand." My understanding from that is that before the 60s they were just building more casual or city bikes, and then in the 60s the brand started the shift towards making performance and racing frames
randyjawa that is an "Original" as labeled on the non drive side of the bottom bracket. I'm not sure when the labeling started but non-drive side is the model, and drive side is the serial number for the bike. I'm not fully sure when they started doing the stamping on the bottom bracket, but you can see it in the early 90s catalog
There are many of their old catalogs on their facebook photo albums to help figure out what you might have. To confuse things I've also seen it labeled as the "DLX" by Euro-Asia Imports but I'm guessing that was just internal to them
Daccordi's history says that "In the 1960s the two co-founders left the helm of the company to Giuseppe’s son, Luigi Daccordi, who radically changed the company’s trademark. In addition to the creative skills inherited by his father, Luigi decided to create his own brand." My understanding from that is that before the 60s they were just building more casual or city bikes, and then in the 60s the brand started the shift towards making performance and racing frames
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The models for Daccordi are a bit confusing, best I can figure is that you have their standard "Road Race" frame with cable routing on the toptube and built with cromor tubing. The paint job and tubing puts the frame as most likely being built in the late 80s or early 90s. It is interesting that the brake bridge is much more old fashioned compared to any of the frames I have seen with the era of paint.job. This combination would probably put the frame as the "entry level" in Daccordi's lineup (which would still be a great riding bike). The best way to date the frame would probably be based off of the Cromor tubing sticker (if it's before or after Trek's copyright lawsuit over "matrix")
randyjawa that is an "Original" as labeled on the non drive side of the bottom bracket. I'm not sure when the labeling started but non-drive side is the model, and drive side is the serial number for the bike. I'm not fully sure when they started doing the stamping on the bottom bracket, but you can see it in the early 90s catalog
There are many of their old catalogs on their facebook photo albums to help figure out what you might have. To confuse things I've also seen it labeled as the "DLX" by Euro-Asia Imports but I'm guessing that was just internal to them
Daccordi's history says that "In the 1960s the two co-founders left the helm of the company to Giuseppe’s son, Luigi Daccordi, who radically changed the company’s trademark. In addition to the creative skills inherited by his father, Luigi decided to create his own brand." My understanding from that is that before the 60s they were just building more casual or city bikes, and then in the 60s the brand started the shift towards making performance and racing frames
randyjawa that is an "Original" as labeled on the non drive side of the bottom bracket. I'm not sure when the labeling started but non-drive side is the model, and drive side is the serial number for the bike. I'm not fully sure when they started doing the stamping on the bottom bracket, but you can see it in the early 90s catalog
There are many of their old catalogs on their facebook photo albums to help figure out what you might have. To confuse things I've also seen it labeled as the "DLX" by Euro-Asia Imports but I'm guessing that was just internal to them
Daccordi's history says that "In the 1960s the two co-founders left the helm of the company to Giuseppe’s son, Luigi Daccordi, who radically changed the company’s trademark. In addition to the creative skills inherited by his father, Luigi decided to create his own brand." My understanding from that is that before the 60s they were just building more casual or city bikes, and then in the 60s the brand started the shift towards making performance and racing frames
"the two craftsmen working on racing bicycles and building frames for some of the most famous brands of that time."
It might well have been that Daccordi couldn't start their own brand without risking some lucrative contracts or without their clients' OK. That would explain a lot.
I haven't found any Daccordi city bikes either, BTW. I assume those were built for other brands as well.
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Since it could be a 1987 frame (or at least be mistaken for one ), and Shimano 1050 was available during that year, I figured I might as well rebuild it for one of the Eroica events I've got planned for this year.
39T inner ring (I may even change that to a 38T), a 14-28 FW and 28mm tires, in this case Panaracer Race C Evo 4.
This is where I'm currently at:
39T inner ring (I may even change that to a 38T), a 14-28 FW and 28mm tires, in this case Panaracer Race C Evo 4.
This is where I'm currently at: