cooperryder

RiddleOfSteel, that is one fine looking black beauty!

What year model?

shoota 

Interesting, I don't have those issues with mine. I did use compressionless housing, I've found that makes a considerable difference.

Also, can you fit 700x38 tires through those dual pivot calipers?

RiddleOfSteel

Thanks!

Setting up cantis for a 700C wheel conversion can be tricky, and I find it more a product of 1) the canti post height relative to the 27" or 700C wheel's brake track and 2) the type of canti brake used. Bridgestones and Univegas, at the very least, have their posts pretty high up when compared to the brake track 'height' of their original 27" wheels. This makes going to a 700C wheel pretty much a no-go. My Voyageur SP is like that in front, so it's a 50/50 proposition in my eyes. If using the period correct cantis where the brake pad has considerably pivot capability, then that will make a 700C conversion a cinch. If "slot style" pad adjustment units like newer ones (CR720s) (or V-brake or side pull caliper) are used, that may not even work for the original 27" wheels as many of those were designed with lower post heights with a wider spread between them (80mm).

Unused canti posts would be weird for me, too, but if I like the ease of setup and the power of the dual pivots, then I'd be amenable to the solution as well.

Thanks! 1985.

Yes, if I use the release on both the Tektro brake lever and R737 caliper on my Trek 720. Can I fit 700x30mm (actual width) tires through the front canti posts on the above '85 Voyageur of mine? Only if slightly deflated.

I fit 700x42s (nominal, 38mm actual on MA2 rims) on the 720 before, though naturally the calipers don't open wide enough for those--not their fault as that is a massive tire.

To reiterate what I initially said, the cantis work just fine on my Voyageur, and the only real issue is required hand effort thanks to the stiff canti arm springs. If its stopping my 210ish lb self down monsterously steep roads for blocks at a time, I'd call that plenty effective. Dual pivots in my experience clamp down a bit quicker and easier. Anyway, ride your favorite brakes, I'll ride mine, and everyone will ride theirs and we'll all be happy.

justcynn

the Tektro 559 Long Reach wouldn't clear the Canti posts in the rear so - gulp - I cut the rear posts off. Tough decision for a new old stock frame and I will understand if you all think less of my build - but the intent is to build this one to ride and enjoy and I hope to do all the work myself. I have yet to find a bike shop in my area that wants to hang parts on old frames and as stated, I stink at setting up Canti's.

This is a 1985 (1984 color) Schwinn Voyageur frame that I bought as a NOS Frame Set. it shipped to me in its original box (pictures earlier in this thread) and was shipped originally from Japan.

It was badged on Saturday February 23, 1985. "Carless Whisper" by Wham (George Michael) was your #1 song and Bobby Knight threw a chair across the court in a game vs Purdue

It is currently wearing 700x40 Maxxis ramblers. it will get a 2x10 drivetrain, most likely with bar end shifters and a 50/34 compact crankset.

(for those interested, behind it is a very clean 1987 Schwinn Tempo - its getting set up as a 1x10 with a 39T crank and a 11-32 Cassette. its wearing 700x28 Panracer Paselas, 28's is all it would take in that frame. This should be one of my lighter weight restomods and I look forward to getting it completed and on the road.


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rccardr 

Good on you.
Brave man!

AdventureManCO 

Props to you for making a bike more useful to you and getting it (eventually) out on the road! Also additional props for the paint smeared saw of carnage in the pic lol

shoota 

Welp. I just had a heart attack. Why didn't you just use shorter reach calipers?

justcynn

the short answer is I already had the new set of tektro 559's and admittedly didn't measure the reach needed before the cut. I assumed I needed the long reach to accommodate the 700-40 tire selection.

There was a moment of regret as I picked up the cut off posts off the floor but its done... they are gone. I will never fool with a set of Cantilever Brakes on this Frame Again.

I know, not a good reason some - but many of you prob wouldn't build a frame like this as a restomod with a compact crankset and dual pivot calipers either. Me? I think it's going to be one of my best builds yet.

shoota 

Ha it's all good, I'm still triggered though

thorstein

Your name isn't Drew by any chance? 😂

kengrubb

Just picked it up a few weeks ago. Had the LBS put Kool Stops on it, and I put Shimano 324s on it. Found a Blackburn vintage Low Rider front rack and it's on the way.

casanewt

Found another survivor today in my size. 1991 25". Only non-original part is the stem. Original tires will need to go, but they are surprisingly not completely crumbling yet. Original seat in good condition is surprising as well.

Lbxpdx

My 85 SP I took for a spin while visiting my folks.

356geoff 

This was on the local FB marketplace. A lady brought it to me for a ridiculous price. Did not need it. Could not pass it up.

thorstein

My front derailer bit it today.


(Post) fatigued Cyclone hinge.

Unfortunately, it took some paint with it when it went


These are the options I'm leaning toward (in order top to bottom for preference). Any insights in choosing between the three? Also the rear derailer is the same 1st gen Cyclone, so I'm thinking about finding the matching FD eventually since it's worked a charm until today.

rgvg

Does the top one have a clamp or is it the brazed on type?

thorstein

The top one has a clamp, but it is the, not sure about correct terminology here, compression strap type not the hinged arm type.

OTS 

I think unlike the first generation Mountech RD, the Mountech FD is generally well regarded.
I kinda remember @The Golden Boy being a fan of the Mountech FD.
Having said that any of the FDs posted above will work well.
All good choices in my opinion.

thorstein

I think I recall his liking for it as well. Hopefully I can get over not having a matching FD, but I think I'll end up at least coordinating the Cyclone theme. The Mountech is slated to be mounted on my '84 Stumpjumper Sport.

The Golden Boy 

The Mountech FD is fantastic, but if you need to be matchy-matchy- I totally get it. But to go along with that- the 84 Stumpjumper Sport had Mountech rear with an AG Tech front. FWIW- I'd take a Mountech any day of the week over the AG. And sort of tangentially- the 85 Voyageur SP came with an XC rear derailleur and a Mountech front...

The regular MII Cyclone FD will work for a triple- I've used it with a 50-38-28 triple- and I'm sure there are thousands and thousands of people that have done it.

The Golden Boy 

I seriously do not understand that at all.

theofam

Couple teaser pics for an upcoming build thread I plan on posting. I was given a rather ratty 25” 1980 11.8. During paint prep, I realized the right rear seat stay had a couple cracks. LBS had no local frame builder references that would take it on.



So, I proceeded. Figured experience would pay dividends for my next project.


If the rest of the parts come together as nicely as the paint, I’ll be pleased.





I buggered up the head badge during removal. Anyone have a NOS badge taking up space in their garage?

thorstein

I finally got the Cyclone Mk-II installed & it works great - nice & smooth. I slight twitch has developed in my right eye, but I'm sure that will go away after a bit (or when I can find a gen 1 Cyclone FD).




Every time I get back on this bike, I remember how smooth & pleasant the ride is.

casanewt

OT, but nice Tuareg! I have the faster black & red one. LOL

theofam

Ha! Anything is slower with me on it! Just got out today for likely my last mountain ride. Plenty of snow packed dirt roads already. Loving the Tuareg!!