carleton

Track Cycling events started today in Australia.

https://results.gc2018.com/en/cyclin...y-schedule.htm

Some brief history:

We'll likely see performances from stand-outs from countries like:
- Australia
- Canada
- England
- Malaysia
- New Zealand
- Scotland
- South Africa
- Trinidad and Tobago
- Wales

Participants by event: https://results.gc2018.com/en/cyclin...rt-entries.htm

Lots of reports here: https://results.gc2018.com/en/cycling-track/reports.htm

pierrej

Kiwi and Canuck women's team sprint teams have been disqualified as both nations bikes failed checks after their qualifying, would like to see what exactly failed
Edit: miscommunication, mens NZ team pursuit disqualified not the women's sprint, Canadian women's sprint still disqualified

pierrej

Also I find it odd that we (Aus) are still using our old team sprint line up with glaetzer as man 2, I would have thought with his recent kilo focus he might go better as the 3rd man

carleton

Well, best practices seem to put the strongest rider in Man 2 to launch Man 3 off with no fading. I'd assume that Glaetzer is the strongest on the team right now.

Also, he's a favorite in the Keirin and Kilo. So, maybe he's saving his legs some. Those will be hotly contested given the entrant list.

carleton

WOW.

Any word on what happened? Aero bars?

carleton

The website's live timing/scoring system really is live. I have the page open and the Para Kilo splits are blinking on to the screen every 15 seconds or so. Well done website and timing system folks!

Also, if you click around, you can find the ride audits (splits for every 125m) for the time trial events.

ruudlaff

Yeah I spotted this earlier and was really impressed. It's a great touch.

carleton

Something interesting in the audit.

The Indian team sprint Man 2 is reported to have ridden 10.956 for lap 2. That's 1.628" faster than the winning NZ team (12.584"). They went from 7th to 2nd by the end of lap 2. Back to 7th at the end of lap 3.

Not sure if this is an error of some sort...or dude is blazing fast. Anybody see the ride?

Morelock

The rules changed again after (maybe during) the last bout where KGF was burning down the house. Where the pads are measured has changed to the middle of the pad instead of the top and they have *clarified* that you can't modify things like pads from stock. So no more gluing multiple foam pads together for stack.

Not sure if that's what it was, just that it happened and hasn't been widely spread yet. I'll look for the doc that was released.

*found it

*second edit - looks like when the Comm's compressed the pads it indeed failed the 10cm check. Link here

carleton

Thanks!

By that logic, the following would be illegal:
- Adding pedal straps on clipless pedals.
- Adding speed and cadence magnets and sensors to frames, wheels, and cranks.

zizou

I was watching the livesteam, it was on phone so quite small however one of the riders was having a lot of problems in the start gate and it looked like they (rider and mechanic) removed the pad...this happened with about 30 seconds to go to the start.

Great time by the Australians, world record and first team under 3 minutes 50!

Morelock

Don't give them any ideas

From my understanding it is
Not ok - glue 3-4 foam pads together to = xxx thickness (say 1/4")
Is ok - buy a piece of foam that IS 1/4" thick and cut one pad out of it.
At least that was how it was explained to one of the mechanics I know.

Also, since they now put a good amount of pressure on your pad, it makes sense to basically take any pad to bar tip measurements from this point forward WITHOUT the pads installed.

carleton

Can someone explain to me what the benefit of this hack is? What advantage does it give one to have several pads stacked together?

Pics would help

Morelock

So mainly it let's you "cheat" the 10cm measurement. (both of the clarifications i posted above do technically)
So if you have foam pads that compress significantly when pressure is applied to them (say human elbows/forearms) then you end up with two measurements... what the jig sees (so long as they just lay the ruler down on it and DON'T compress it) and then what the measurement is when the rider is actually on the bike. It's also more comfortable to have thicker pads for a lot of us.

The same is true of the angled pad measurement change (before they just put the measurement tool on the top edge, as opposed to finding the true middle of it) which in theory lets you "cheat" into a less extreme mantis position. Looking at Wiggins hour record is the best example of this one, although Tanfield also pushes it.

Basically, the UCI doesn't want you to mantis. They don't want you to kind of mantis. When (and it's not a given, It's often VERY bad aerodynamically) raising your hands is faster, it's often a lot faster. The UCI is in a hard spot, because they don't want to start measuring riders ON the bike again, and they don't want to put up some rule that everyone will hate like "pads must be horizontal" or limit what kind of extensions you can use, but they really don't want you to mantis

queerpunk

yeah, on facebook, somebody said that a mechanic removed a pad at the starting line - after the bike had passed check.

so it was checked again, after the event, and failed.

that's mechanic error right there. not an issue with the uci's rules.

queerpunk

meanwhile, australian men's TP team set a new world record with an absolutely stunning 3.49.804.

Morelock

woah, that seems like an incredible oversight on the mechanic's part.

carleton

That'll do it!

Thanks!

pierrej

IP qualifying on at the moment, very aero tuck from welsford so far

Morelock

anyone got a source to watch in the US?

zizou

Been enjoying the track so far, some great times, some upsets and some good tactics too. Really good racing

Poppit

The no1 sprint qualifier Glaetzer being beaten by the 16th qualifier from Malaysia is a real shock

carleton

That's a huge upset...in front of a home crowd, no less.

What tactic did the Malaysian use to win?

taras0000

Damn! I hope I can find this on YouTube.

Poppit

Sahrom posted a slightly slow 200, for him, of 10.013 so qualified 16th, Glaetzer posted 9.583 to qualify first. Glaetzer seemed to want to qualify using the least amount of energy so didn’t start his sprint until mid way through the first bend. Sahrom was right behind him and just seemed to use his jump to pull out, sit on his hip around the final bend and beat him by half a wheel at the line. There’s a video here but not sure if it will play for everyone, Commonwealth Games: Huge upset as world champion Matt Glaetzer knocked out - BBC Sport