UnD3R0aTh

How good is this bike really?! How much should I pay for it as is in CAD? Thank you. I can say right away, I already hate this bent handlebar!

TakingMyTime

Cad 100 ?

UnD3R0aTh

hmmm, it's supposed to be a nice bike!!!

Mr. 66

If I was selling I would be starting about $500 cad in the big city Craigslist, but would take less.

I think for you a good buy price is anything under cad $300

John Nolan 

Why do you hate the bent bars? Probably SR Randonneur—I like the shape better than the NIttos, but, of course handlebars are a very individual thing.

Jeff Neese

When you refer to the handlebars as "bent", do you mean that they're drop bars? Because they don't look bent to me.

That's a fantastic bike, but if you don't like drop bars then maybe it's not the bike for you. Even though you can swap handlebars, with all of the costs factored in it might not be worth it compared to just waiting for a bike that is more your style.

John Nolan 

Ah, I hadn't thought that that might be what the OP meant.

I agree, if drop bars aren't desired, it's probably not a good choice.

UnD3R0aTh

Guys I ride drops of course, but these bars are not straight, they are ergonomic!!! They are similar to the ones I have on my Allegro, I prefer the Atalas handlebars for sure, check out my gallery

UnD3R0aTh

Guys should I buy at 300 cad?! I never owned a Miyata before so I have no idea what to expect, any idea how it compared to nishiki Laundu or international or an Atala competazione (Reynolds tubing?)

John Nolan 

$300 seems a fair price. It's a good quality bike, The tubing is easily as good as the Landau or the Atala I would say, but I don't know how the ride would compare.

Question is, is it worth that to you? If you end up spending another $100 changing the bars it might not be a good deal. If you have other bars on hand, that's different.

(BTW, the bars are randonneur, not ergonomic. I'd say don't judge them just by looking at them—try them out first, you might like them)

UnD3R0aTh

of course it's worth that to me, beats any big box store piece of junk at half price! I want to know the market value for when I decide to sell it, will I get back my 300+whatever I spend on it, how much is it worth to you, is my question!

John Nolan 

I never buy bikes thinking of resale, just not my thing. I think unless a bike is seriously undervalued it's too difficult to assure a future resale price.

And I don' think it's an absolute steal at $300; more like a fair price. (I wouldn't buy it, because I already have a similar bike, and I have too many bikes to be tempted by anything that isn't a screaming bargain.)

Jeff Neese

It won't cost you $100 to change the handlebars, even including the new bar tape. Whether you get your $300+ back when you sell it, is anyone's guess. That depends on your market, the timing (both seasonal and economic) and sometimes just luck finding the right buyer. You will need to find someone that knows what this is and appreciates it. I don't know what your experience is with high-end steel bikes, but this one in particular might turn into one of your keepers once you start riding it. If the bike is in good shape (which it looks like it is) it's worth $300, assuming it fits you. You'll love it - it might even turn into your favorite bike.

billew

I think you don't know this a touring bike and a very good one. If you want a road bike you should look for one. It would be a shame to alter the bike. I have one a 615GT and two 210s they are great long distance bikes for carrying weight. These aren't speed bikes.

curbtender

Own a 618. Recently upgraded to 9 speed with 700x35 tires. I have no complaints.

UnD3R0aTh

touring bikes are still road bikes, no? the frame suggests this bike is as light as a feather, I think it should be no heavier than 12kg

curbtender

As noted, a touring frame. Built with durability and comfort in mind. Fits the bill.

alcjphil

Touring bikes are usually built with heavier gauge tubing than road bikes so that the frame is stiffer and more able to support the types of loads people carry while touring. My own touring bike is so stiff that it is very unpleasant to ride it with narrow tires. Anything narrower than 700 x 30 tires and it will rattle your fillings out

UnD3R0aTh

Thank you but does this apply to "splined" triple butted tubing, it's not even double butted it's triple lol

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Jeff Neese

This is not a full-blown touring bike, like the 1000. This was what they often called a "Sport Touring" bike, and it actually was made to be somewhat fast and fun. The ad copy says something about a "club pace line". But it can also accomodate a rear rack and you could do light touring on it - certainly not fully loaded like the 1000.

This is more sport, than it is touring. It would be perfect for supported touring though.

wrk101

No, its not "light as a feather". Touring bikes are not designed to be light. They are designed to handle a substantial load. Even the very top of the line touring bikes are not light. Heavier than 12kg with saddle and pedals.

$300CAD is a good buy. Used replacement handlebars can be found cheap.

As far as riding on the roads, of course, most tours are road rides. Touring bikes give you better braking, wider tires allowed, can accommodate racks, much wider gearing.

himespau 

That's a great price if you're looking for a vintage sports touring bike AND it fits you. If it doesn't fit you, it's a complete waste of money.

Lots of people speak highly of the splined tripled butted Miyata tubing. Even if it is 25 lbs or so (should be under 30 lbs as shown without fenders or racks), it's going to be lighter than a big box store "road" bike and it won't matter unless you're racing.

billew

Just a point as I have one, a 615 GT that came with front and rear racks OEM, You may refer to an LT which is light touring. The bike is the same frame as a 1000 just one level lower Gruppo. It is ready for loaded touring it had a lower price point. My 210s I have two, just came with a rear rack a double butted tubeset I use this bike for my gravel rider and long distance in hilly New England with the compact triple.