School me on Shimano hardware
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it's complicated, but in general the higher "up" the line, the quality and cost go up.
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"School me,," is a euphemism for "I'm too lazy to spend 15 minutes researching it myself..so you guys do the work and spoon feed me".
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I'm pretty sure Shimano makes hardware for catching schools of fish.
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Before I rode bikes other than as "toys," for lack of a better term, I had a Shimano reel and possibly arod. In fact, I remember being surprised to eventually learn that Shimano also made bicycle components. I thought it was strange that a fishing gear company had branched out into the bicycle business.
Can you school me on which business came first?
In any event, thanks for the memory jog.
Can you school me on which business came first?
In any event, thanks for the memory jog.
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Before I rode bikes other than as "toys," for lack of a better term, I had a Shimano reel and possibly arod. In fact, I remember being surprised to eventually learn that Shimano also made bicycle components. I thought it was strange that a fishing gear company had branched out into the bicycle business.
Can you school me on which business came first?
In any event, thanks for the memory jog.
Can you school me on which business came first?
In any event, thanks for the memory jog.
https://best-spinningreels.com/shimano-reels-history/
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Mods, realize that I put up the fishing info so the thread wouldn't flounder.
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floundered; floundering\ ˈflau̇n-d(ə-)riŋ \Definition of flounder (Entry 2 of 2)
intransitive verb
1: to struggle to move or obtain footing : thrash about wildlyThe poor horse was floundering in the mud.
2: to proceed or act clumsily or ineffectuallythe normally surefooted governor floundered a moment like a prize pupil caught unprepared— Time
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If you're going to be pedantic, you need to be correct; flounder is an intransitive verb in this form. seypat 's usage is just fine.
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I'll remember this thread the next time I see one with posts from regulars congratulating each other on how endlessly warm, welcoming, and helpful they are to newcomers. I've been on this forum for quite a while, but I still haven't figured out which innocent questions will get the snarling responses from the gatekeepers, or why.
The information that people are giving the OP and the links being shared were all available in the first page of a Google search. Lazy? Lonely?
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One simple google search that took less than 30 seconds yielded this. Not sure why the OP couldn't have done the same.
https://www.bikeradar.com/advice/buy...-need-to-know/
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Unfortunately that is too common these days. I run into the same thing on fishing forums and fishing facebook groups I belong to. Nobody wants to the research anymore. They want to be spoonfed.
One simple google search that took less than 30 seconds yielded this. Not sure why the OP couldn't have done the same.
https://www.bikeradar.com/advice/buy...-need-to-know/
One simple google search that took less than 30 seconds yielded this. Not sure why the OP couldn't have done the same.
https://www.bikeradar.com/advice/buy...-need-to-know/
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floundered; floundering\ ˈflau̇n-d(ə-)riŋ \Definition of flounder (Entry 2 of 2)
intransitive verb
1: to struggle to move or obtain footing : thrash about wildlyThe poor horse was floundering in the mud.
2: to proceed or act clumsily or ineffectuallythe normally surefooted governor floundered a moment like a prize pupil caught unprepared— Time
verb
floundered; floundering\ ˈflau̇n-d(ə-)riŋ \Definition of flounder (Entry 2 of 2)
intransitive verb
1: to struggle to move or obtain footing : thrash about wildlyThe poor horse was floundering in the mud.
2: to proceed or act clumsily or ineffectuallythe normally surefooted governor floundered a moment like a prize pupil caught unprepared— Time
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If you're going to be pedantic, you need to be correct; flounder is an intransitive verb in this form. seypat 's usage is just fine.
You're a careful writer, which means that you're a careful reader, so while you may not object to "flounder" in this context, there are any number of parallel examples that, at the very least, likely give you pause - particularly in cases where an older word is being supplanted gradually in common speech by another, similarly spelled word. I wonder where you stand on "jibe" versus "jive," for example. Or could you care less? (Joke.)
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BTW...Stephen Furst, the actor who played Kent Dorfman, died from diabetes-related complication 5 years and one week ago today.
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Like the misuse of "jive" where "jibe" is clearly meant, such decisions are always contextual. The issue is whether some readers will be distracted by a particular choice of a word or phrase.
You're a careful writer, which means that you're a careful reader, so while you may not object to "flounder" in this context, there are any number of parallel examples that, at the very least, likely give you pause - particularly in cases where an older word is being supplanted gradually in common speech by another, similarly spelled word. I wonder where you stand on "jibe" versus "jive," for example. Or could you care less? (Joke.)
You're a careful writer, which means that you're a careful reader, so while you may not object to "flounder" in this context, there are any number of parallel examples that, at the very least, likely give you pause - particularly in cases where an older word is being supplanted gradually in common speech by another, similarly spelled word. I wonder where you stand on "jibe" versus "jive," for example. Or could you care less? (Joke.)
As an editor, your job (I presume) was to help make writing accessible to an intended audience -- which might often involve word (and other) choices which would make less sense to people like me. But in seypat 's context, 'flounder' was a better choice than 'founder,' based on the actual dictionary definitions of the two words.
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But not sure that the above corporate approach applies to a hobby!
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But I guess the real problem, at least for me, is that I rarely buy new. So that is a whole different issue when comparing Sora of 2010 to today's products (Oh! There's another one of those issues my betters didn't even consider!!! )
Unfortunately that is too common these days. I run into the same thing on fishing forums and fishing facebook groups I belong to. Nobody wants to the research anymore. They want to be spoonfed.
One simple google search that took less than 30 seconds yielded this. Not sure why the OP couldn't have done the same.
https://www.bikeradar.com/advice/buy...-need-to-know/
One simple google search that took less than 30 seconds yielded this. Not sure why the OP couldn't have done the same.
https://www.bikeradar.com/advice/buy...-need-to-know/
Not just that, but I'm asking for personal experiences. Not just marketing schtick. Something a couple of posters here hasn't picked up on. (ya, ya, I know. Preposition. Get over it.)
Oh, God! You were a teacher??? That explains a lot.