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Old 05-04-21, 12:57 PM
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Want to buy: High end Japanese Road / Touring bike

I'm looking for a nice 70s/80s Japanese-made road or touring bike in the 57cm range. If I can get 74cm from center of crank to top of saddle I'm happy. Zunow, 3rensho, nicer Miyatas and Fuji, Konno Allez, etc.

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Now THIS should be interesting...
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I hope so. Should I encourage folks NOT to use PM's so everyone can watch?
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Keep an eye on this ebay seller for Zunow, Alps, other high-end Japanese rando/touring frames/bikes. I rarely see anything in 56-58cm (also my size), but it's worth checking from time to time.
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That's very kind of you! Thank you so much!
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I have this 56 cm 85 Nishiki Cresta that I was about to post here for sale. PM me if you are interested.

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I built up a similar-aged Cresta for my son.
It's a really nice bike...
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Cynikal, I sent you a message.
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Missed it by a bit

57-58, nope. Going to have an 82 Miyata 1000 ready in a bit, so no go. Good luck though on that very popular size.
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57-58, nope. Going to have an 82 Miyata 1000 ready in a bit, so no go. Good luck though on that very popular size.
what size is yours?
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Oops, sorry. It is listed as a 63, but is closer to a 62. I should have mentioned that. Sorry.
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I’ve got a Lotus Super Aero, which I think is among the cooler Japanese bikes, in a 56. Mostly a time capsule - a few things are “close”. A lot
if the parts were bought NOS. These tend to ride “big” because of the geometry.










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That's a great bike, Aaron. You said it runs big - what are the measurements?
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Originally Posted by gravelinmygears
That's a great bike, Aaron. You said it runs big - what are the measurements?
The bike is currently in storage - but my memory on it is 55cm CTC st and 56 tt. If I’m off, it’s not by much.

This has the dynadrive pedal system, which run low as part of the aero concept. Should ride about 2cm over size, and the bars also run longer.
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Cynikal, I sent you a message.
Thanks. I sent you a reply. Let me know if you didn't get it.
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Bump

Bump for size adjustment: I’ve yet to find a high end bike I like with a 57ish seat tube. Anything?
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58 cm Miyata 1000 ?
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That’s just a little tall. So 56 or 57. I’d do a 55.5 if the top tube is 56.5.

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The Miyata 58 may surprise you. Bet it has a short top tube. My miyata 1000 is a 57 and rides a bit small compared to my other 57-58 bikes. I have a fair bit of seat tube showing. I am 5’10” with average inseam. Mine isn’t for sale.
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You might find this one of interest:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/19408953109...IAAOSwapZgjw5w

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You might find this one of interest:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/19408953109...IAAOSwapZgjw5w

Thats very kind of you! I haven’t heard of this. Anyone have info?
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Originally Posted by sd5782
The Miyata 58 may surprise you. Bet it has a short top tube. My miyata 1000 is a 57 and rides a bit small compared to my other 57-58 bikes. I have a fair bit of seat tube showing. I am 5’10” with average inseam. Mine isn’t for sale.
This is very helpful. I’m 6’1 so a 58 may work. Sdn40, I’ll give it a look.
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My Miyata 1000 w/ saddle set at 74cm.


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Originally Posted by alexihnen
My Miyata 1000 w/ saddle set at 74cm.


is yours a 58?
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Just to confuse things, these 1000s were listed in inches earlier, and centimeters later on. Experts will chime in. An 82 I am selling is inches, and my 89 is cm. Also, measurements may be to top of post on brochures vs ctc. My 89 is same size as one in previous post and I was assuming it was a 57, but just measuring ctc on seat tube was 21.5” so around 55cm. Now I am confused on my own bike. Either way, my stand over is to recommended range, but seat tube and top tube tells me the next size bigger would work too and I am 5’10”.
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