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Old 04-02-21, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by thehammerdog
anger issues.
missing the entire point
​​​but thanks.

The problem with some haiku is it drags on a bit in the middle.
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Old 04-02-21, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by thehammerdog
anger issues.
missing the entire point
​​​but thanks.


Me, trying to figure out what your point is.
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Old 04-02-21, 07:16 PM
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Carbon is a scam, anyone who pays more than $200 for wheels is a fool.

Feel better? 🙂
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Old 04-02-21, 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest
Carbon is a scam, anyone who pays more than $200 for wheels is a fool.

Feel better? 🙂
Let me tell you about this sweet, sweet deal for farbon kiber wheels.
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Old 04-02-21, 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by thehammerdog
anger issues.
missing the entire point
​​​but thanks.
yep. you are.

(anyone else notice OP has a carbon Bianchi. Seems interesting)


1500g deep carbon is faster than 1200g aluminum. that's why. (and the 1300g aluminum wheels will be more fragile.) End of discussion.
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Old 04-02-21, 11:12 PM
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I thought we got to the point where people stopped thinking light weight is what makes a bike fast.
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Old 04-03-21, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Eric F
It's not just about speed. Ride quality and hot looks are also factors for people.
I agree that "looks" is a factor. Very subjective too. When you say "ride quality" I'm not sure what you mean. Stiffness? Comfort? Just curious cause I chalk most of that up to tire choice.
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Old 04-03-21, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by thehammerdog
anger issues.
missing the entire point
​​​but thanks.
You certainly are missing the point.
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Old 04-03-21, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by bruce19
I agree that "looks" is a factor. Very subjective too. When you say "ride quality" I'm not sure what you mean. Stiffness? Comfort? Just curious cause I chalk most of that up to tire choice.
I bet there's a shop nearby that will rent you a pair and then you can see for yourself.
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Old 04-03-21, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by seattle forrest
carbon is a scam, anyone who pays more than $200 what i spent for wheels is a fool.
ftfy
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Old 04-03-21, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest
I thought we got to the point where people stopped thinking light weight is what makes a bike fast.
Light weight is never gonna stop a bike feeling fast.
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Old 04-03-21, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by thehammerdog
i paid just over ,$200 for 1600gram alloy wheels

what does dub 1500grms cost.
hey if ya got it buy it but expensive for my taste..plus im a fat boy so few grams aint gonna hurt.
i am mostly curious about the why behind need for carbon and the many down sides....cost brittle over similar alloy.
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As others have mentioned, most people go for carbon wheels because you can get a deeper, more aerodynamic wheel, without the weight penalty, which is why you don't see any deep alloy wheels. The fact that my carbon wheels are almost twice as deep (and much wider, 30mm vs 24mm for the alloys), but weigh less, than my alloy wheels is testament to that. $1,000 for my carbon wheels with DT240 EXP hubs and Sapim spokes. Brittle? You mean because carbon will break/shatter instead of getting bent/dented? Not really a downside, imo. I have carbon wheels on my gravel bike and I beat them like they owe me money, no issues at all. If I hit them hard enough to do damage, that hit would kill an alloy wheel too, so either way the wheel would be toast.
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What's this I see? Oh, just another thread about how people who spend more than OP are idiots, masquerading as a thread where the OP insincerely asks a question as if they had any intention of being educated. Truly, the digital equivalent of manna to feed our ignore lists.
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Old 04-05-21, 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Eric F
I'm sorry to hear you have anger issues. Maybe a bike ride would help with that. Physical exercise can be very therapeutic.

I haven't missed the point at all. You're confused about the value of expensive CF wheels vs. cheap alum wheels. Psimet very thoroughly covered multiple facets of the issue, yet you still seem to be a bit confused. That being the case, maybe such wheels aren't a good choice for you.

I've ridden lots of wheels, from cheap to expensive, in various combinations of rim profiles and materials. I have found that my current preference is for moderately-deep all-CF wheels which are fairly light, but not super-light. I enjoy the aerodynamic advantages of a deep-section rim, but super-light wheels leave things feeling a bit too skittish when I sprint. 20-ish years ago, I had a pair of Mavic Cosmics Carbone that were deep and heavy. They sucked for climbing and punchy accelerations, but once they got spinning, they absolutely flew! My current set of Enve 3.4s are a great all-around design that are an absolute joy for the kind of riding I do now. I appreciate them every time I ride.

All that said, maybe you don't ride the same way I do, and/or your preferences might be different. Maybe the kind of riding you do won't bring out the differences between one type of wheel or another. If that's the case, it would be silly to buy them.
I have a set of 4.5 ARs. I've been off them for a couple weeks awaiting a tire, I think it was shipped in a row boat. Back on them now, and the contrast (vs HED Ardennes) is night and day. You said it well, I wanted to chime in because I got back from a ride not long ago and I'm so happy with the ride quality, speed, and imperviousness to potholes. Mine are 1,500 grams. You can get wheels under 1 kg. I know I wouldn't enjoy them as much.
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Old 04-05-21, 10:27 PM
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I picked up a set of HED Stinger 60mm tubular wheels a while back,

and while they're not heavy, they feel heavy. I think they would be quite good for a clyde- 24 spokes, sturdy, & with some 30mm tires

you could run moderate pressure without pinch-flatting.
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Old 04-06-21, 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by surak
What's this I see? Oh, just another thread about how people who spend more than OP are idiots, masquerading as a thread where the OP insincerely asks a question as if they had any intention of being educated. Truly, the digital equivalent of manna to feed our ignore lists.
you're on fire today
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