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Old 04-30-17, 07:07 PM
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Best dishing tool?

Title pretty much says it. Which one for best speed, accuracy, convenience?

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Originally Posted by robert p
title pretty much says it. Which one for best speed, accuracy, convenience?

Thanks!

Var 143
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Originally Posted by Dan Burkhart
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Very nice to be sure! Looks like they don't make it anymore and used ones are $$$.

I have an old, folding Wheelsmith dishing tool which is perfectly adequate, but I haven't kept up with what's currently available/fashionable. Having said that, the Park WAG-5 looks just fine.
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I'm probably the odd one, but I use my Park TS2 and flip flop the wheel. If it is off center, I need to calibrate my stand. I have an inexpensive dishing tool to double check I didn't do something stupid.

I don't know how accurate it has to be as I doubt frames are perfectly aligned. I can't imagine the tolerance on a frame is closer that most dishing tools. The one caveat may be carbon fibre bikes out of molds. I can see close tolerances on those. I'll still defer to a properly setup trying stand.

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Can't buy it but it's pretty easy to make and easy to use.

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I made one modeled after the current VAR dishing tool


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I agree that the Var is real nice, have mine in the basement right now. But the one drawback is it's lack of small wheel compatibility. I dislike the current Park but use one at work all the time and have built 16" wheels using one. Andy
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I also prefer the Park over the Var as on my truing stand the thin blade of the Park does a better job of catching the lock nut.
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I also prefer the Park over the Var as on my truing stand the thin blade of the Park does a better job of catching the lock nut.
To add to this, the park dishing tool comes to a "V" that fits in the axle locating vee of their truing stands so you can touch the locknut with the dish tool to check dish without having to take the wheel out of the stand.
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Originally Posted by Andrew R Stewart
I agree that the Var is real nice, have mine in the basement right now. But the one drawback is it's lack of small wheel compatibility. I dislike the current Park but use one at work all the time and have built 16" wheels using one. Andy
The new VAR looks like it might solve the small wheel problem and seems a bit more elegant than the Park. Cyclus makes a VAR knockoff that looks pretty good. Minoura made a simple one (see post 36 in this link) that is still my favorite.

But if you want a work of art, it's hard to beat the Wheel Fanatyk one. Almost worth the price.
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No votes for the EVT? It's awesome. And the Wheel Fanatyk tool is pretty good too
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Hands down it's the EVT Trigger. Everything else is just everything else.

EVT TRIGGER

I still kind of like the old Wheelsmith folding dishing tool, and I love the aesthetics of the Campagnolo dishing tool, but in terms of accuracy, convenience etc. it's the EVT Dishing tool. There is no 2nd place.

A Park TS-2 truing stand can't be trusted to show dish. If you calibrate it for a 100mm front hub you can't use it to show on a 135mm rear hub. You always need a dishing tool with a TS-2.
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Originally Posted by mtnbke
Hands down it's the EVT Trigger. Everything else is just everything else.

EVT TRIGGER

I still kind of like the old Wheelsmith folding dishing tool, and I love the aesthetics of the Campagnolo dishing tool, but in terms of accuracy, convenience etc. it's the EVT Dishing tool. There is no 2nd place.
The problem, however, is finding one. There's information out there on the tool but no one seems to sell them.

Originally Posted by mtnbke
A Park TS-2 truing stand can't be trusted to show dish. If you calibrate it for a 100mm front hub you can't use it to show on a 135mm rear hub. You always need a dishing tool with a TS-2.
I disagree. Just because you don't trust it doesn't mean it can't be trusted. Every time I've built a rear wheel on my TS-2, the dish is exactly right when I check it. I wouldn't trust the TS-2 stands at my co-op without calibration because someone seems to think that the shaft collars need to be loosened all the time but, once calibrated...again!...they are just as accurate as my personal truing stand.
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