Winter, you embrace 100%?
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During very cold weather, I do not bicycle more than 2 hrs. I have learned that you must have an outer layer that prevents air from stealing your body heat otherwise it becomes a losing battle. Once the temp dips below zero, I have a pair of almost knee heigh compression socks (fully cover calf muscles), a layer of thin wool blend socks, and finally a thicker wool or one of the newer blended materials that does not trap moisture, should you get a little warm. I also use wind proof shoe covers that seal the shoes completely by a zipper and a chord at the top that goes up to ankle. The last layer has proved quite beneficial at and below zero F. Should the temp rise and I feel a little warmer, I can always unzip the shoe cover partially to ensure that moisture doesn’t condense. Without all these layers, my feet do get cold and I don’t like the idea of riding too long when my feet or fingers are beginning to approach numbness, even if I can push for a while longer.
Decades ago, when I experienced my toes going numb the first time, I found a coffee shop to get warmed up - a hot cup of coffee and a warm brioche never tasted so good. After that a number of well thought purchases were made to survive the winters.
Good luck, and keep warm!
Decades ago, when I experienced my toes going numb the first time, I found a coffee shop to get warmed up - a hot cup of coffee and a warm brioche never tasted so good. After that a number of well thought purchases were made to survive the winters.
Good luck, and keep warm!
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Winter is pretty harsh where I'm at. I'm located in SW Michigan and we already have had some snowy days hit us.
I didn't even know winter biking was a thing, I'm definitely going to do some more research on it!
I didn't even know winter biking was a thing, I'm definitely going to do some more research on it!
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I opted for a different kind of chemical toe warmer. I ditched the individual 7.4V battery packs for each boot and run both off a single higher voltage battery now. The controller with the "In Out" on it is the one I'm using for my boots, and the one above it is for my gloves. I mount it to the inside of my jacket with velcro and connect it to a USB-C battery with the cable on the right with a red end. Inside that red heat shrink is a little board with a USB-C connector that tells the battery to give it 9V instead of 5V. The controller didn't need 2 outputs as I ended up making a long Y cable to go to the bottom of my tights, then added cable guides inside the tights and a hole just above the top of my boots. With that change both my gloves and boots use the same kind of battery, so in a pinch I can switch them, plus I have a spare battery that can be used for either.
Its been unusually warm so far, so I've only used my boot heaters twice this year. I haven't even been bringing the battery with me lately.


Its been unusually warm so far, so I've only used my boot heaters twice this year. I haven't even been bringing the battery with me lately.



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@rumrunn6, how do you know when to use the warmers in your shoes?
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@rumrunn6, how do you know when to use the warmers in your shoes?
this year I was reminded because I was out riding for about 1 1/2 hrs & when I got back to my car my toes were cold. I already put my barmitts on. a cpl hrs at 25 degrees means either wear my best winter cycling gloves or use barmitts. I carried 2 pair of gloves just in case I made the wrong choice. started w/ the good gloves & it was more than I needed but didn't switch. the next day was 35 degrees, started w/ thinner gloves but brought my better gloves in my trunk. finished the ride w/o switching
so as it's getting colder I'm gradually introducing my cold weather gear & doing a little trial & error
so now, if I go for another ride at 25 degrees I'll try the toe warmers. I know when it's super cold, like 17 degrees, I prefer the hand warmers taped to my socks/toes. especially if precipitation is happening

but we're not there yet
sorry, short answer, trial & error, I guess
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@rumrunn6, that's a perfect response, not snarky. It's hard to remember which clothes suit which conditions. I learned a trick here on BF. A guy said he kept a spreadsheet, so I do the same. I don't write in it often. I write the conditions and temperature, what I wore, and how well it worked out. It helps a little.
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@rumrunn6, that's a perfect response, not snarky. It's hard to remember which clothes suit which conditions. I learned a trick here on BF. A guy said he kept a spreadsheet, so I do the same. I don't write in it often. I write the conditions and temperature, what I wore, and how well it worked out. It helps a little.
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Thread Drift: Your quote reminded me of one of my favorite cycling experiences ever. January 1993, I'm living in Boston MA, it starts snowing -- heavily -- one night, and my best friend who lives less than two miles away says "Come on over, we're having a party." So I don my winter jacket and grab my Peugeot rigid MTB, and I start riding the <2 miles to his place.
Did I mention it was snowing heavily?
In the time it took me to get from my front door, where the snow was already about 6" deep, to the first traffic light a quarter mile away, the accumulation had doubled. Seriously.
And as I continued pedalling in this ever-deepening white fluff I was admittedly shocked at how quickly it continued to accumulate. I swear to god there was 16-18" inches of snow on the ground when I finally arrived at my buddy's place ~20 minutes later.
Anyhow, the part that your quote reminded me of was: On three separate occasions during this short frigid commute, a driver in a car pulled up next to me, rolled down the passenger-side window, and shouted "YOU'RE CRAZY!!!"
Three different drivers.
Ah, memories...
Did I mention it was snowing heavily?
In the time it took me to get from my front door, where the snow was already about 6" deep, to the first traffic light a quarter mile away, the accumulation had doubled. Seriously.
And as I continued pedalling in this ever-deepening white fluff I was admittedly shocked at how quickly it continued to accumulate. I swear to god there was 16-18" inches of snow on the ground when I finally arrived at my buddy's place ~20 minutes later.
Anyhow, the part that your quote reminded me of was: On three separate occasions during this short frigid commute, a driver in a car pulled up next to me, rolled down the passenger-side window, and shouted "YOU'RE CRAZY!!!"
Three different drivers.
Ah, memories...
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@Bob Ross, that happened to me twice.
I took an epic walkabout at the age of 20. I left college, my job, my apartment and took my bike to Europe to wander with no itinerary. I started in September. In early December in the south of England, it snowed where it rarely snows. The region was stranded. I decided to go back home to the US. I was in Stratford Upon Avon, Shakespeare's town. I waited a day for things to stabilize. The next day, I rode to Oxford. It was still cold, and there were snow banks on the roadsides. I rode 50 without stopping, and my cold feet were killing me. I double my wool socks which made my shoes too tight and didn't make me warmer. I took the train to London and then had to cross the city on my bike loaded with panniers etc. The streets had not been plowed, and traffic was snarled, and I slipped and slid with my laden bike. A man in a "lorry" ducked his head down to say, "You're mad, you know." Imagine this in a heavy London accent. If I had lifted my head to him, I would have fallen, so I just yelled, "I know."
More recently, NYC had a snowfall so big that the mayor declared an emergency and said no one may drive. Everyone took off from work, so I decided to try my bike with my brand new studded tires. They didn't help at all, because they're ice tires, not snow tires. When I put my foot down on the pedal, I fell over on my side. It didn't hurt because the snow was a big cushion. A man standing outside his workplace smoking a cigarette watched me try foolishly. He didn't speak English, but he had to say something. He yelled, "Bike!" Imagine this in a Chinese accent.
I took an epic walkabout at the age of 20. I left college, my job, my apartment and took my bike to Europe to wander with no itinerary. I started in September. In early December in the south of England, it snowed where it rarely snows. The region was stranded. I decided to go back home to the US. I was in Stratford Upon Avon, Shakespeare's town. I waited a day for things to stabilize. The next day, I rode to Oxford. It was still cold, and there were snow banks on the roadsides. I rode 50 without stopping, and my cold feet were killing me. I double my wool socks which made my shoes too tight and didn't make me warmer. I took the train to London and then had to cross the city on my bike loaded with panniers etc. The streets had not been plowed, and traffic was snarled, and I slipped and slid with my laden bike. A man in a "lorry" ducked his head down to say, "You're mad, you know." Imagine this in a heavy London accent. If I had lifted my head to him, I would have fallen, so I just yelled, "I know."
More recently, NYC had a snowfall so big that the mayor declared an emergency and said no one may drive. Everyone took off from work, so I decided to try my bike with my brand new studded tires. They didn't help at all, because they're ice tires, not snow tires. When I put my foot down on the pedal, I fell over on my side. It didn't hurt because the snow was a big cushion. A man standing outside his workplace smoking a cigarette watched me try foolishly. He didn't speak English, but he had to say something. He yelled, "Bike!" Imagine this in a Chinese accent.
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