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Old 03-12-20, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by mjac
This stuff is powerful. I mean Powerful, 5.3 million Scovel Heat Units.
I've got some homemade Carolina Reaper hot sauce that comes pretty close... If only I had some way to squirt it into an attacker's eyes.
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Telling you would take some of the mystery out of your life. I cannot, in good conscience, be responsible for that.
Your conscientiousness is overwhelming.
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No offense sir, but this stuff makes Sabre Red look like Air Freshener.
No problem. BTW, my Midnight Madness rides are backed up with my M&P 380 Laser Bodyguard. p.s. -- could have had fresh wild hog yesterday 1AM

https://www.sabrered.com/formulation...rength-and-law

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When it's your time, it's your time, but if I can put the odds in my favor with regards to survival, I will do so. And where I ride I'm not so much concerned about two-legged threats, but four-legged ones. I've not been bitten yet but I came close once when a little nipper just got my heel. Had he been a bigger dog I'm sure he'd have taken a chunk out of my leg.
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Originally Posted by Milton Keynes
I've got some homemade Carolina Reaper hot sauce that comes pretty close... If only I had some way to squirt it into an attacker's eyes.
Choot Em.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
Uncorrect, but I hope you can get up.
I didn't think so.
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Originally Posted by mjac
Try this stuff. Where you self conscious about it when you first started carrying it and did that subside if you did?
Self conscious? In what way? Do you mean did I feel nervous that it might go off? Or feel like I was over reacting?

If the latter, no. The safety works well. If the former, no, I am responsible for my own safety. I feel completely safe against any dog with police grade sprays. The only thing I am conscious of is how the wind is blowing...
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Originally Posted by terrafirma
Self conscious? In what way? Do you mean did I feel nervous that it might go off? Or feel like I was over reacting?

If the latter, no. The safety works well. If the former, no, I am responsible for my own safety. I feel completely safe against any dog with police grade sprays. The only thing I am conscious of is how the wind is blowing...
The GEL disperses much less in windy conditions and my 380 even less.

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Old 03-12-20, 12:48 PM
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If you put a couple dabs on your fingers, it's a good way to remind you not to touch your face.
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Originally Posted by terrafirma
Self conscious? In what way? Do you mean did I feel nervous that it might go off? Or feel like I was over reacting?

If the latter, no. The safety works well. If the former, no, I am responsible for my own safety. I feel completely safe against any dog with police grade sprays. The only thing I am conscious of is how the wind is blowing...
No, I mean that you are deliberately carrying something for self defense instead of relying on your own guile and instincts. I feel like it softens you.
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The GEL[//B] disperses much less in windy conditions and my 380 even less.


The non-lethal option is right for me. Might be more dangerous here in North Idaho to tell someone you just shot their dog compared to leaving the dog sneezing and keeping on riding.
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No, I mean that you are deliberately carrying something for self defense instead of relying on your own guile and instincts. I feel like it softens you.
Like I said, I am responsible for my own safety. The way I feel comfortable assuring my safety to the extent possible is by carrying spray.

that being said, I am far more concerned about being hit by a distracted driver than being attacked by a dog. Can't do much about the distracted driver.
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Originally Posted by terrafirma
Like I said, I am responsible for my own safety. The way I feel comfortable assuring my safety to the extent possible is by carrying spray.

that being said, I am far more concerned about being hit by a distracted driver than being attacked by a dog. Can't do much about the distracted driver.
Maybe I will get over it. I am going CC so I better get over it. Two guys pulled two armed carjackings and took a shot at the police the other day right where I live. I was on my way to Walmart. You gotta do what you gotta do I guesse. I don't like it, but that is the way it is.
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Originally Posted by mjac
You are right, at night things can get dicey. But I can not agree. It is not going to be my time, it is going to be their time.
Go get 'em, tiger...
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Originally Posted by bpcyclist
Go get 'em, tiger...
Ah, that is what we need when making important decisions, patronizing remarks. Not funny when you have personally known victims of crime. I will not be a victim, trust me.
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Originally Posted by mjac
Ah, that is what we need when making important decisions, patronizing remarks. Not funny when you have personally known victims of crime. I will not be a victim, trust me.
Ah--you misunderstood the intent of the remark. Not meant in any way to be patronizing. My apologies to you. And just to complete the thought, I, too, have been the victim of serious person-to-person crime--actually, several.
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Originally Posted by bpcyclist
Ah--you misunderstood the intent of the remark. Not meant in any way to be patronizing. My apologies to you. And just to complete the thought, I, too, have been the victim of serious person-to-person crime--actually, several.
That is not how I took it.

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Originally Posted by mjac
That is not how Intook it.
As I have said--sincere apologies.
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Neutral corners please.

Later in the ride with the herd of pork, my friend had a coyote run along the side of the road before finally darting in front and crossing. He too packs, a Sig Sauer P238.

BTW, our ride is in an area where the STOP signs were just replaced due to holes.
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Originally Posted by livedarklions
If you put a couple dabs on your fingers, it's a good way to remind you not to touch your face.
Just hope the adversary is not approaching you from upwind - gel or not.

That is part of the reason law enforcement training in many jurisdictions requires you to get sprayed with your own spray during pepper spray and lethal force training. That way one knows what happens if you discharge it into the wind or have it taken and used on you.
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Originally Posted by aabb
Doesnt seem to be available on Amazon Canada :/
Given that I am always asked about having weapons, tobacco, alcohol, or pepper spray by Canada Border officials when i go on a fishing vacation, I suspect it is either not legal or strictly controlled in Canada at the national and/or provincial levels.
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Old 03-12-20, 03:55 PM
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When I camp in the mountain parks, I carry pepper spray, because grizzly bears.
If I was worried about coyotes, I'd have to carry it to walk the dog around the block.
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Originally Posted by Bill in VA
Given that I am always asked about having weapons, tobacco, alcohol, or pepper spray by Canada Border officials when i go on a fishing vacation, I suspect it is either not legal or strictly controlled in Canada at the national and/or provincial levels.
It is because we don't feel any need to admit people into our country who carry weapons. I am sure that you are also asked if you are bringing firearms into Canada. Someone on a fishing trip has no need of them
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