[Dangerous Driving] Speeding Cyclist cross RED light hurt Pedestrian & RUN! / My wife
10-07-22, 07:07 AM
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#Update 07OCT : Couldn’t have any hints on this cyclist, seems rare chance justice could show. If you might know any popular forum or common channel in bike society please let me know. Thank you.
10-07-22, 08:45 AM
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Have you followed any of the above-suggestions, such as getting this story into the media? Much more likely to be effective that posting in these sorts of places.
10-07-22, 09:10 AM
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Other suggestions:
-Post flyers with his image in the area with you contact info. Maybe someone who knows him will see it and reach out.
-Go to local bike shops and / or coffee with photo of him and bike in hand.
Most cyclists are creatures of habit and take the same routes often. Chances are this turd frequents that rout. Maybe he lives close by, stops frequently at a coffee shop or bike shop in the area.
Your best chances of getting him identified will be through the media..
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10-07-22, 12:39 PM
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The Toronto Road Bike Community FB page may also be able to help you: https://www.facebook.com/groups/672196449558168/
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Sorry, but not surprised, to hear that you've struck out so far.
As I posted earlier, membership in this forum is spread very thin across the globe, so it's not likely many (any?) people in the Toronto area saw it. You need to focus locally, ie. local news, including any cable channels, a local community forum, or personally doing the rounds of bike shops with your photos. Also print and laminate those photos, along with the basics and post them in the area and along the cyclists presumed route (guess, and cover some bases) where someone might see them and make a connection. At the same time, take those fliers around to bike shops. In our world, many people will recognize the bike more easily than they might the rider.
Lastly, and maybe this should have been first, contact a local attorney that specializes in accident cases. They know where and how to get evidence, and track people down, plus you'll need one to sue and get some justice.
Cases like yours are more about perseverance, than anything, so prepare for a long siege.
As I posted earlier, membership in this forum is spread very thin across the globe, so it's not likely many (any?) people in the Toronto area saw it. You need to focus locally, ie. local news, including any cable channels, a local community forum, or personally doing the rounds of bike shops with your photos. Also print and laminate those photos, along with the basics and post them in the area and along the cyclists presumed route (guess, and cover some bases) where someone might see them and make a connection. At the same time, take those fliers around to bike shops. In our world, many people will recognize the bike more easily than they might the rider.
Lastly, and maybe this should have been first, contact a local attorney that specializes in accident cases. They know where and how to get evidence, and track people down, plus you'll need one to sue and get some justice.
Cases like yours are more about perseverance, than anything, so prepare for a long siege.
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10-07-22, 07:29 PM
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I am going to add a little aside to this thread. Toronto is a dangerous place to be a pedestrian( or a cyclist as well). My brother lives there along with his children. He enjoys cycling as do I. However since he moved there from Ottawa a few years ago he is quite fearful of riding on most city streets. Toronto drivers are awful. A couple of years ago my niece(my brothers daughter) was crossing a four lane street at a pedestrian crosswalk in Toronto. The car in the right hand lane had stopped but a complete idiot driving in the left lane just kept on going and ran into her and could easily have killed her. If you are a pedestrian in Toronto you take your life into your hands every time you step off the curb. Cars are a much bigger danger than cyclists, so the OP should be happy that his wife was hit by a cyclist rather than by a 2000 KG SUV
10-07-22, 09:38 PM
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The only thing not stated in the remarks above is very important to know and follow religiously:
1. Look BOTH WAYS before crossing any street or roadway, even a one-way street. Walking, driving, cycling, skateboarding, whatever.
2. If you can't see, you CAN'T GO.
3. If you're NOT SURE, you can't go.
4. The pretty lights do not protect you. They only establish right-of-way for ambulance chasing attorneys.
Unless the cyclist fell from an airplane, he was RIGHT THERE and visible to anyone paying attention. Sure it was his fault, but your wife is hurt for nothing. It is a dangerous world for those who don't pay strict attention crossing streets. And there are literally MILLIONS of !d!0ts out there doing the wrong things to endanger us. Be aware and awake around traffic or suffer consequences. If he didn't fall from an airplane, the knucklehead cyclist ran a red light without looking, and your wife stepped in front of him without looking.
I do hope they catch the dope. Be careful out there.
1. Look BOTH WAYS before crossing any street or roadway, even a one-way street. Walking, driving, cycling, skateboarding, whatever.
2. If you can't see, you CAN'T GO.
3. If you're NOT SURE, you can't go.
4. The pretty lights do not protect you. They only establish right-of-way for ambulance chasing attorneys.
Unless the cyclist fell from an airplane, he was RIGHT THERE and visible to anyone paying attention. Sure it was his fault, but your wife is hurt for nothing. It is a dangerous world for those who don't pay strict attention crossing streets. And there are literally MILLIONS of !d!0ts out there doing the wrong things to endanger us. Be aware and awake around traffic or suffer consequences. If he didn't fall from an airplane, the knucklehead cyclist ran a red light without looking, and your wife stepped in front of him without looking.
I do hope they catch the dope. Be careful out there.
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10-08-22, 07:16 AM
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I wonder if that cyclist is a member of bike forums. I have posted pictures of my helmet on bike forums so you all know he's not me.
10-08-22, 11:02 AM
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People often get hit by trains the size of two story houses, confined to obvious TRACKS, often with warnings posted RIGHT THERE, so obviously there is no limit to the mindlessness of pedestrians, cyclists, or motorists.
There is no limit to MY mindlessness lounging in my LaFuma chair in my back yard. Otherwise, head on a swivel like the man posting above me stated.
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FWIW - I'm not sure it's appropriate to discuss side issues like basic street smarts or situational awareness here (Though I heartily endorse their importance) out of courtesy to the OP who may be following this thread and doesn't need to hear that now.
Meanwhile I hope the OP has at least learned that nothing is going to happen unless HE MAKES it happen. He's gotten plenty of good advice here, and it's up to him to follow up, rather than waiting for serendipity.
Meanwhile I hope the OP has at least learned that nothing is going to happen unless HE MAKES it happen. He's gotten plenty of good advice here, and it's up to him to follow up, rather than waiting for serendipity.
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10-08-22, 09:39 PM
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How many black 52 cm Surly Cross Checks are there in the Toronto area ridden by middle aged men? I might be wrong on the exact size, but if the cops asked QBP nicely for the names of individuals who have purchased one... How about asking at bike shops who have sold this frameset? It is a pretty unique bike, that model, that color, that size, it looks kind of new to me anyways, judging by the nice looking paint. This rider needs to be treated the same as a motor vehicle hit and run.
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None posted. But I'm pretty sure the cyclist didn't fall from the sky and he certainly isn't invisible.
I live in a city where two or three cars continue through any intersection after their light turns red. If I fixated on the traffic signals and floored it the instant my light turned green, I would "cause" a wreck every single day. How do I avoid this? When the light turns green I look both ways and wait for traffic to STOP. Then I proceed. When I walk in places with crosswalk signals and my signal says "WALK", guess what I do! Look both ways, make sure everyone stops, then proceed. When I run red lights on my bicycle I do same. If the situation isn't PERFECT, I stop at the light. If for some reason I CAN'T SEE, like when a public bus or something is blocking my view, I sure don't sprint out into a travel lane without peeking around the bus.
I don't need a video to know what happened here. Two people not looking where they're going collided. Totally predictable and avoidable. Millions of pedestrians cross streets successfully every day, and thousands of cyclists run red lights successfully every. single. day. without hitting anyone.
I live in a city where two or three cars continue through any intersection after their light turns red. If I fixated on the traffic signals and floored it the instant my light turned green, I would "cause" a wreck every single day. How do I avoid this? When the light turns green I look both ways and wait for traffic to STOP. Then I proceed. When I walk in places with crosswalk signals and my signal says "WALK", guess what I do! Look both ways, make sure everyone stops, then proceed. When I run red lights on my bicycle I do same. If the situation isn't PERFECT, I stop at the light. If for some reason I CAN'T SEE, like when a public bus or something is blocking my view, I sure don't sprint out into a travel lane without peeking around the bus.
I don't need a video to know what happened here. Two people not looking where they're going collided. Totally predictable and avoidable. Millions of pedestrians cross streets successfully every day, and thousands of cyclists run red lights successfully every. single. day. without hitting anyone.
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None posted. But I'm pretty sure the cyclist didn't fall from the sky and he certainly isn't invisible.
I live in a city where two or three cars continue through any intersection after their light turns red. If I fixated on the traffic signals and floored it the instant my light turned green, I would "cause" a wreck every single day. How do I avoid this? When the light turns green I look both ways and wait for traffic to STOP. Then I proceed. When I walk in places with crosswalk signals and my signal says "WALK", guess what I do! Look both ways, make sure everyone stops, then proceed. When I run red lights on my bicycle I do same. If the situation isn't PERFECT, I stop at the light. If for some reason I CAN'T SEE, like when a public bus or something is blocking my view, I sure don't sprint out into a travel lane without peeking around the bus.
I don't need a video to know what happened here. Two people not looking where they're going collided. Totally predictable and avoidable. Millions of pedestrians cross streets successfully every day, and thousands of cyclists run red lights successfully every. single. day. without hitting anyone.
I live in a city where two or three cars continue through any intersection after their light turns red. If I fixated on the traffic signals and floored it the instant my light turned green, I would "cause" a wreck every single day. How do I avoid this? When the light turns green I look both ways and wait for traffic to STOP. Then I proceed. When I walk in places with crosswalk signals and my signal says "WALK", guess what I do! Look both ways, make sure everyone stops, then proceed. When I run red lights on my bicycle I do same. If the situation isn't PERFECT, I stop at the light. If for some reason I CAN'T SEE, like when a public bus or something is blocking my view, I sure don't sprint out into a travel lane without peeking around the bus.
I don't need a video to know what happened here. Two people not looking where they're going collided. Totally predictable and avoidable. Millions of pedestrians cross streets successfully every day, and thousands of cyclists run red lights successfully every. single. day. without hitting anyone.
No doubt you'll continue to parade your advanced intelligence..and continue to be out of line.
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As FBinNY mentions..you're off topic and not helping the OP in the least. Everyone is a genius in hindsight. The OP is seeking help in obtaining some justice for an incident in which his wife had the right of way.
No doubt you'll continue to parade your advanced intelligence..and continue to be out of line.
No doubt you'll continue to parade your advanced intelligence..and continue to be out of line.
I have no way of helping him THIS time. I'm working on NEXT TIME here. Hopefully there won't be a next time. And this thread should have been closed days ago. Any further "help" for the OP should be handled through PM for legal reasons. Don't take a genius to figure any of this out.
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10-09-22, 03:41 PM
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What a shame the bystanders didn't intervene. There's a handful of construction workers on the opposite corner gawking. Hope the rider is identified.
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The OP is not a cyclist. He's here to GRIPE about one cyclist to ALL cyclists. He is never coming back after the newness wears off.
I have no way of helping him THIS time. I'm working on NEXT TIME here. Hopefully there won't be a next time. And this thread should have been closed days ago. Any further "help" for the OP should be handled through PM for legal reasons. Don't take a genius to figure any of this out.
I have no way of helping him THIS time. I'm working on NEXT TIME here. Hopefully there won't be a next time. And this thread should have been closed days ago. Any further "help" for the OP should be handled through PM for legal reasons. Don't take a genius to figure any of this out.
10-09-22, 05:56 PM
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Maybe he was expecting a bunch of like-minded cyclists to defend the offender and blaming the victim so he can go back to the general public proving how all cyclists don't obey traffic laws.
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The OP is not a cyclist. He's here to GRIPE about one cyclist to ALL cyclists. He is never coming back after the newness wears off.
I have no way of helping him THIS time. I'm working on NEXT TIME here. Hopefully there won't be a next time. And this thread should have been closed days ago. Any further "help" for the OP should be handled through PM for legal reasons. Don't take a genius to figure any of this out.
I have no way of helping him THIS time. I'm working on NEXT TIME here. Hopefully there won't be a next time. And this thread should have been closed days ago. Any further "help" for the OP should be handled through PM for legal reasons. Don't take a genius to figure any of this out.
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Let's cut the OP some slack. He's suffering through something totally foreign to him, and struggling to find some connections.
I understand why he's here. It's like meeting someone and mentioning that you're Jewish and from Brooklyn, and their responding, "Oh, you must know my cousin Moshe".
People tend to assume we're part of a community, and therefore must know each other.
The reality is that, even if we narrow the focus to only the Toronto area, the odds of making a connection are pretty lousy.
I understand why he's here. It's like meeting someone and mentioning that you're Jewish and from Brooklyn, and their responding, "Oh, you must know my cousin Moshe".
People tend to assume we're part of a community, and therefore must know each other.
The reality is that, even if we narrow the focus to only the Toronto area, the odds of making a connection are pretty lousy.
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How many black 52 cm Surly Cross Checks are there in the Toronto area ridden by middle aged men? I might be wrong on the exact size, but if the cops asked QBP nicely for the names of individuals who have purchased one... How about asking at bike shops who have sold this frameset? It is a pretty unique bike, that model, that color, that size, it looks kind of new to me anyways, judging by the nice looking paint. This rider needs to be treated the same as a motor vehicle hit and run.
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Agreed. Bring back Larry. At least we can laugh with him (and maybe at him but with our love...).
