Do you need a handlebar bag to be a racer?
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yuuuuuup. I do have tubeless tires and etap but those are on my MTB and TT bikes, respectively, not needed on road IMO
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that looks like an ultra setup, you do like 24hr and rando stuff? I'll race my ass off for 10 min (track) to 5 hours (Depending on the event) but after that I want a cold beer and a shower!
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I do a lot of long rides. Longest to date has been 12 hours riding in a day. Before I do anything beyond that I need to figure out my shoes and bike fit so I can actually pedal comfortably.
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I’m having a surly gravel bike built up. I figured it would make a good campground bike. It’s got a rear rack that I can use for ice runs. But now that I’m riding more seriously again I’m thinking of just giving it to my son to ride where we live. I can’t wrap my head around traveling with two bicycles.
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Such a crazy price range for these bags running from $12 (bushwacker, china made, sold on amazon), to $90 (made in USA, you can pay an extra $12 for a shoulder strap, and $13 shipping). Leadout bags are in the middle at $40, Asian made, I believe, since they don't advertise made in the USA. This illustrates the diffference in labor costs between Asia and the US, I guess. Not a small difference for more or less the same function.
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Really, use whatever you need to do your ride. If you need 25 bags and a camelback, do it. If one bottle is all you need, that's fine too. I generally remove all bags for crits. I sometimes leave a saddle bag on in a RR, in case I flat and there's no wheel truck - or I'm behind it.
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that’s about when I first saw giant-quad racey riders with bar-bags mounted on their aero bikes. Maybe it was just a NE thing and it’s just catching up to you guys, but from here it seems like you’re probably also blown away by these new cellular telephones that have cameras built into them and also can access the internet just like a computer. Did you know that there’s also disc brakes on bicycles now, too? Hydraulic ones, at that, by Jove!
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man you NE guys are so nouveau!
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I have in mind that I'd like to do a one-day trip to Tahoe City with my kid this summer when the snow clears. Those frame bags look like they'd be just the thing for our CX bikes. Cool.
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I'm talking regular stuff in pockets, not over stuffed. But either way, those pockets and bigger saddle bag are behind me, in my aero wake, creating zero extra aero drag, and in fact the saddle bag may be helping break up the vortex behind me, much like those tapered apparatuses behind 18 wheelers to reduce their vortex to conserve fuel. An up-front bar bag, traditionally flat-fronted like the one in the pic, is 100% extra drag, to the tune of what? 54 square inches (9"x6" give or take) of frontage. That's huuuge. "They" say just going from a vented helmet to an unvented time-trial type helm is one of the biggest and most significant aero gains an avid cyclist on a road bike can make, and the gains from those turbulent holes and extra surface area must be less than the 54 square inches of a bar bag.
But if bar mitts and and an upfront bag works for you, then go with it. I'm just bringing up the aero downsides to not using them. I have lots of heavier-than-necessary items I ride with, and accept the weight penalty because they're valuable to me. But I don't dispute that the weight penalty exists.
But if bar mitts and and an upfront bag works for you, then go with it. I'm just bringing up the aero downsides to not using them. I have lots of heavier-than-necessary items I ride with, and accept the weight penalty because they're valuable to me. But I don't dispute that the weight penalty exists.
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For me bar bags are great for long rides in cold wet weather. Extra jacket, gloves, snacks etc. I prefer not to have my extra tube and tool in a saddle bag as it will get soaked and fit awkwardly with an ass saver. I also love not having anything in my jersey pockets.
Different strokes for different folks. I love mine.
Different strokes for different folks. I love mine.
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