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Old 12-20-19, 09:24 AM
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Pinarello...Really?

Usually when I think of a Pinarello it's something like this:



Currently available on eBay for $59,000.00, but it's sold as the real deal bike.

So imagine my surprise in perusing the Goodwill site to find this:




Though I must admit that's a stylish basket and a killer chain guard.
But WOW the nylon tie down for the rear fender wrap are perilously close to being sucked into the rear cassette.
Now here's a bike company with a wide product range.
Take care and enjoy the day.

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Not the same Pinarello as the Italian racing bike company. These are lower end Pinarello bikes bikes from a German company.

These are periodically posted on here.
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See what I mean.

With Hercules welds.




If you're in Indiana this is your chance to own a Pinarello, just add a puppy to the basket and be the magnet at every coffee stop on the weekend ride.
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How does that work?
They brand the bikes made in Germany?
Not throwing stones here, a great company.
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A company needs to take certain steps to protect their name in all countries. Don’t know specifics under current law but if they don’t do the right things, they can loose the rights to their name on a country by country basis. Nike, based on Oregon was a big company by 1992. Coming up to the Barcelona Olympics, they found that someone else had registered their name and trademark in Spain. Nike won in court, but my guess is they spend more on lawyers in a year than Pinarello makes in revenue.
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I have owned three Pinarello bicycles. The first was, without doubt, the best of the three...


The second, a too small for me was purchased only to check over and flip. Sorry, no pictures but it had a fish net paint job, no chrome and Shimano 105 six or seven speed.

The third, I have now and have no idea why I bought it. The consumer nature of the bike is obvious, lacking some of those little details that make Pinns what they should be...
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Originally Posted by since6
Usually when I think of a Pinarello it's something like this:



Currently available on eBay for $59,000.00, but it's sold as the real deal bike.

So imagine my surprise in perusing the Goodwill site to find this:




Though I must admit that's a stylish basket and a killer chain guard.
But WOW the nylon tie down for the rear fender wrap are perilously close to being sucked into the rear cassette.
Now here's a bike company with a wide product range.
Take care and enjoy the day.
It's worth how much?.....and you saw it at a Goodwill and didn't pick it up to flip it?
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Originally Posted by jadocs
It's worth how much?.....and you saw it at a Goodwill and didn't pick it up to flip it?
It's a town bike and it's worth exactly what it looks like, a few hundred new perhaps? The 59 K price is used to prevent a successful bid when the seller sells it privately off site.
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The 59k bike is on efbay, shown for comparison.
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I’ve never been clear on whether the two were in any way related, and the question has come up before. Contrary to belief, Italian pinarello did sell city bikes in their Treviso shop.
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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake
I’ve never been clear on whether the two were in any way related, and the question has come up before. Contrary to belief, Italian pinarello did sell city bikes in their Treviso shop.
Yes, bikes of all sorts, and soccer balls & rugby jerseys & ...


Some more images in the flickr link below...

https://www.flickr.com/photos/164658...h/40523427950/
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There was some chatter about the "other" Pinarello here...and I did do some research:

https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...pinarello.html

Regardless, I'm not sure what that is...I don't think it's that German Pinarello. It could just be decals on a bike...a licensing deal...beats me.
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It's a local pick up and driving to Indiana is just not in the cards.

Though I did think about it as it would be a killer step through bike for when I take grandsons/granddaughters out for bike rides.

Yeah with the ease of getting decals one wonders, it looks like a fine example of bike building you would find at REI or other large chain stores, rugged enough to get through a day of bashing around with children/grandchildren while hauling the essentials of food, drinks, etc

Yeah it's tempting.
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At least the decals seem to be holding up......
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Looks like it may be a badge-engineered product - a Chinese or Taiwanese built city bicycle ordered by the Pinarello as an Italian-market offering. It wouldn't be the first venerated Italian road bike brand to have a line of sensible, mid-range (or in this case, meh-range - I've seen better) town bikes available exclusively to their home markets, or to the European market.

Unlike the German "PinaRello," the decals on his frame are an obvious association with the Pinarello brand we know of.

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I'm not interested in it, but I find it interesting.
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Bianchi too, they used to sell bikes from the highest to the lowest grade.
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Originally Posted by since6


See what I mean.

With Hercules welds.




If you're in Indiana this is your chance to own a Pinarello, just add a puppy to the basket and be the magnet at every coffee stop on the weekend ride.
and here I thought it was my good looks. Or the Campagnolo, or the chrome, women dig chrome.
old guys notice Colnago time and again.
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Bianchi too, they used to sell bikes from the highest to the lowest grade.
And city bikes. Though the upright-bar stuff usually doesn't carry high end tubing or flashy components, it'd be a mistake to suggest that a pair of North Roads immediately equate to a "lowest grade" bike shaped object that serves its purpose well.

I'll admit that the Pinarello's RD and the steel seatpost do let it down though - could be better. It doesn't help that the frame is hideous.

This '80s Bianchi city bike isn't really much better (I'd say the steel stem, crank, and stamped steel brakes make it a lot worse than the Pinarello), but the lugged frame sure makes it a lot more palatable:




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Kurt once again that lovely chain guard.

As with the posted Pinarello there's a sense of speed in a stamped piece of metal. Reminds me of the Lowe designed artdeco steam locomotives and I believe the Starlight (?) Studebaker Coupe.

Artful design need not cost much, but it does require an artist in it's design.

It's something I miss, old appliances and tools had both function and an expression of art in them, not just geometric shapes with wireless convenience that means replacing a $300-400.00 part when the coding/hardware fails.

Though, like spring, if you look there is still beauty in design to be found.

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Kurt once again that lovely chain guard.

As with the posted Pinarello there's a sense of speed in a stamped piece of metal. Reminds me of the Lowe designed artdeco steam locomotives and I believe the Starlight (?) Studebaker Coupe.

Artful design need not cost much, but it does require an artist in it's design.

It's something I miss, old appliances and tools had both function and an expression of art in them, not just geometric shapes with wireless convenience that means replacing a $300-400.00 part when the coding/hardware fails.

Though, like spring, if you look there is still beauty in design to be found.
Agreed. A beautiful chainguard (or chaincase) is as important to a city bicycle's function as it is to its beauty. Done right, a chainguard can absolutely define a city bicycle.

Unfortunately, there's not much out there that's pretty anymore, but a guard can still add flair. I put SKS Chainboards on three of these kids' track bikes, and though they're modern, they do add a certain flair that wouldn't be there otherwise.

The Chainboards also stay put, unlike many cheap guards.





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That little angled slope leading up from the chain ring circle to connect to the line running back along the line of the chain guard reminds me of the notched air intake atop the Flying Tiger P-40. Now that should excite the young riders you built these bikes for.


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That little angled slope leading up from the chain ring circle to connect to the line running back along the line of the chain guard reminds me of the notched air intake atop the Flying Tiger P-40. Now that should excite the young riders you built these bikes for.
That makes it even better. Too bad it doesn't have an actual scoop design, but then it'd probably compromise what the guard was supposed to do in the first place.

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