View Poll Results: What dream/grail Huffy for the next visionary, time-wasting project?
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Poll: What new dream/grail Huffy for the next indignity in the cycling world?
06-08-23, 12:29 PM
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Shimano BR-AD20, from the Adamas AX groupset - I think. Here's the Velobase link to them:
https://velobase.com/ViewComponent.a...d1ecc&Enum=117
Break Brake reach was apparently adjusted by moving the entire caliper up or down using a slot in a mounting bracket that was part of the caliper. The brake's mounting bolt fit thru the slot. See rear picture of caliper at link above.
https://velobase.com/ViewComponent.a...d1ecc&Enum=117
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06-08-23, 12:30 PM
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I know the C&V set thought you old Campy on old Huffy was interesting and sacrilege so let’s up the game a bit.
Find yourself a Serotta built Huffy and put actual huffy parts minus the Ashtabula crane on it.
Cool bike with uncool parts vs your existing uncool bike with uncool parts
Find yourself a Serotta built Huffy and put actual huffy parts minus the Ashtabula crane on it.
Cool bike with uncool parts vs your existing uncool bike with uncool parts
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The Aerowind may have an ovalized seat tube. I've never examined one, so dunno for sure.
If so, replacing the FD with something lighter/more modern may not be easy.
Also, at least some Aerowinds were originally equipped with Shimano's Adamas AX components. Velobase appears to indicate that at least some (maybe all) Adamas AX cranksets used a FFS and/or Selectra-type bottom bracket. I believe those require a special tool to remove.
Just pointing out possible complicating factors associated with using the Aerowind frame as a basis. The Santa Fe could prove far less painful if used as the base frame.
IMO seeing either decked out in modern CF components and coming in well under 25lbs would be a hoot.
If so, replacing the FD with something lighter/more modern may not be easy.
Also, at least some Aerowinds were originally equipped with Shimano's Adamas AX components. Velobase appears to indicate that at least some (maybe all) Adamas AX cranksets used a FFS and/or Selectra-type bottom bracket. I believe those require a special tool to remove.
Just pointing out possible complicating factors associated with using the Aerowind frame as a basis. The Santa Fe could prove far less painful if used as the base frame.
IMO seeing either decked out in modern CF components and coming in well under 25lbs would be a hoot.
Oh, and 25lb? Think less, think way less
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Dear BF,
Now that the Huffente Le Grandepagnolo project/goal has wrapped up or is at least winding down, it's time to start thinking of a newdesecration vision for the next dream Huffy build.
If you don't know what I'm referencing, a link to the thread should help with some context...
We started at 36.4lbs and ended at 23.4lbs in what many would consider a complete waste of good Campy Super Record.
There were many trials and tribulations, and many lessons learned, so now we are ready to take that experience and put it towards the next project!
The Le Grande build was a lot of fun (actually it was almost pure frustration), so I'm excited about a new Huffy, and a new vision. The previous vision was simple: el cheapo garbage Huffy + Campy Super Record. Can it be done? Yes! Should it be done? Err...
This time, were taking some of those barriers and limitations off, and aiming for the moon (or at least a nearby asteroid).
I need you help to deterimine the base for such a ridiculous, nonsensical project.
I have a simple question for you:
Santa Fe or Aerowind ?
Which one evokes a stronger emotion, or more memores, for you? The Le Grande was fun, but it was a little obscure. We want to go with something a little more warm and familiar to begin our next heresy. Something comforting, you know?
So, which would you choose, and why? You answer doesn't have to make sense. Actually, the less sense it makes, the better. I have no particular favorite, so I'm asking our esteemed BF members if they have a preference for which they would like to see me waste yet more of my life on.
Photos of each potential project bike to come in the next post...
Now that the Huffente Le Grandepagnolo project/goal has wrapped up or is at least winding down, it's time to start thinking of a new
If you don't know what I'm referencing, a link to the thread should help with some context...
We started at 36.4lbs and ended at 23.4lbs in what many would consider a complete waste of good Campy Super Record.
There were many trials and tribulations, and many lessons learned, so now we are ready to take that experience and put it towards the next project!
The Le Grande build was a lot of fun (actually it was almost pure frustration), so I'm excited about a new Huffy, and a new vision. The previous vision was simple: el cheapo garbage Huffy + Campy Super Record. Can it be done? Yes! Should it be done? Err...
This time, were taking some of those barriers and limitations off, and aiming for the moon (or at least a nearby asteroid).
I need you help to deterimine the base for such a ridiculous, nonsensical project.
I have a simple question for you:
Santa Fe or Aerowind ?
Which one evokes a stronger emotion, or more memores, for you? The Le Grande was fun, but it was a little obscure. We want to go with something a little more warm and familiar to begin our next heresy. Something comforting, you know?
So, which would you choose, and why? You answer doesn't have to make sense. Actually, the less sense it makes, the better. I have no particular favorite, so I'm asking our esteemed BF members if they have a preference for which they would like to see me waste yet more of my life on.
Photos of each potential project bike to come in the next post...
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06-08-23, 12:41 PM
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I know the C&V set thought you old Campy on old Huffy was interesting and sacrilege so let’s up the game a bit.
Find yourself a Serotta built Huffy and put actual huffy parts minus the Ashtabula crane on it.
Cool bike with uncool parts vs your existing uncool bike with uncool parts
Find yourself a Serotta built Huffy and put actual huffy parts minus the Ashtabula crane on it.
Cool bike with uncool parts vs your existing uncool bike with uncool parts
Regarding the uncool Campy parts, before this build I have very little exposure to them. I really like the FD…it looks good, feels good, and comes apart for cleaning really easily. The steel clamping stuff, the boat anchor QRs, BB spindle, headset I could live without. Still it all goes together and I've come to accept it for what it is. The new build won’t have the restrictions that the old one did.
Apart from those, a fine old Italian steed could also work.
But, another project for another day. I’ve got a laser focus on this one, and we are getting close to having it settled.
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06-08-23, 12:44 PM
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Okay, when I saw the thread title, I was ready to relegate this to the usual garbage threads that are getting so frequent in General Cycling, then putting you on ignore. I did look at the thread though so as to not judge a book by its cover. I always try to give the benefit of the doubt. Glad I did. Good thread and project. Great job on the Le Grande! I voted for the Aerowind, though the Santa Fe was probably more common, so that may fit your idea better. I'll be anxiously awaiting the project.
Amazingly, the Le Grande actually rides great, and did fabulous on the muddy 30+ mile gauntlet I ran it through last weekend. It impressed me enough to do another whole garbage build, which is really saying something, for how unbelievably frustrating the build was at times.
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06-08-23, 12:45 PM
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06-08-23, 12:45 PM
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06-08-23, 12:47 PM
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06-08-23, 12:49 PM
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Please still keep the ‘ignore’ button at the ready, you still may need it for what’s to come
Amazingly, the Le Grande actually rides great, and did fabulous on the muddy 30+ mile gauntlet I ran it through last weekend. It impressed me enough to do another whole garbage build, which is really saying something, for how unbelievably frustrating the build was at times.
Amazingly, the Le Grande actually rides great, and did fabulous on the muddy 30+ mile gauntlet I ran it through last weekend. It impressed me enough to do another whole garbage build, which is really saying something, for how unbelievably frustrating the build was at times.
It really looks like a nice bike. I don't doubt it rides well.
06-08-23, 12:49 PM
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06-08-23, 12:54 PM
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Haha I love this, well it’s not a bad idea but Serotta built Huffy’s are a little obscure (and a little boring to me), so if we really wanted to be offensive, I’d rather do something like this to a Paramount (which I have), but people would really lose their minds if I found an old Singer or Herse and decked it out in garbage.
Regarding the uncool Campy parts, before this build I have very little exposure to them. I really like the FD…it looks good, feels good, and comes apart for cleaning really easily. The steel clamping stuff, the boat anchor QRs, BB spindle, headset I could live without. Still it all goes together and I've come to accept it for what it is. The new build won’t have the restrictions that the old one did.
Apart from those, a fine old Italian steed could also work.
But, another project for another day. I’ve got a laser focus on this one, and we are getting close to having it settled.
Regarding the uncool Campy parts, before this build I have very little exposure to them. I really like the FD…it looks good, feels good, and comes apart for cleaning really easily. The steel clamping stuff, the boat anchor QRs, BB spindle, headset I could live without. Still it all goes together and I've come to accept it for what it is. The new build won’t have the restrictions that the old one did.
Apart from those, a fine old Italian steed could also work.
But, another project for another day. I’ve got a laser focus on this one, and we are getting close to having it settled.
I think if you want to do a proper 7/11 Team tribute bike, the better approach might be to come up with a beautiful frame with excellent components and just slap it with a Huffy decal.
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06-08-23, 12:56 PM
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06-08-23, 01:00 PM
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$185 if you can get to Akron, complete with owner's manual!
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I don’t know if Huffy ever made a 24” version, but they definitely made both a 26” (wheeled) version as well as a full-sized 27”. You can tell by the dropouts. The 26”er has the typical crunched stays at
the dropouts, whereas the larger full size edition has the dropouts with the individual braze points on them.
Honestly I don’t know which Id prefer. The 26” version may be lighter. But I might run into BB height issues if I take that frame and stick 700c wheels on it. I DO have a 26” Huffy frame in the garage that I can experiment with and compare measurements and sizing.
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I did a search yesterday on ‘SearchTempest’ and it turned up about 3 of them, including an unusual burgundy one (looked like original paint).
I don’t know if Huffy ever made a 24” version, but they definitely made both a 26” (wheeled) version as well as a full-sized 27”. You can tell by the dropouts. The 26”er has the typical crunched stays at
the dropouts, whereas the larger full size edition has the dropouts with the individual braze points on them.
Honestly I don’t know which Id prefer. The 26” version may be lighter. But I might run into BB height issues if I take that frame and stick 700c wheels on it. I DO have a 26” Huffy frame in the garage that I can experiment with and compare measurements and sizing.
I don’t know if Huffy ever made a 24” version, but they definitely made both a 26” (wheeled) version as well as a full-sized 27”. You can tell by the dropouts. The 26”er has the typical crunched stays at
the dropouts, whereas the larger full size edition has the dropouts with the individual braze points on them.
Honestly I don’t know which Id prefer. The 26” version may be lighter. But I might run into BB height issues if I take that frame and stick 700c wheels on it. I DO have a 26” Huffy frame in the garage that I can experiment with and compare measurements and sizing.
https://chicago.craigslist.org/nch/b...628628561.html
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06-08-23, 02:23 PM
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06-08-23, 03:13 PM
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But unfortunately mixte frames tend to be heavier than standard frames of the same size. I think that would go "against the grain" with respect to what I understand that AMCO's planning to do here (e.g., a serious "weight weenie" build based on a Huffy frame).
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I need to see how the Aerowind shift levers attach to the side of the frame. Are the brazed-on posts on the headset? How "aero" is that?
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Definitely the Aerowind. I grew up with a pair of these, so they bring happy memories to mind.
Still the Aerowind. The flattened seat tube and...ahem...*unique*...brakes are much more noticeable than what the Santa Fe has to offer.
Still the Aerowind. The flattened seat tube and...ahem...*unique*...brakes are much more noticeable than what the Santa Fe has to offer.
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Unfortunately, the photo of the SL-AD24 in the Velobase link is quite poor - too poor to tell if that's it or not. And I guess it's possible Huffy put mounting bosses on the headtube and used the downtube boss-mount versions there instead.
Edited to add: found a better picture of the SL-AD24 at Mike Sweatman's Disraeli Gears site:
https://www.disraeligears.co.uk/site...-_page_33.html
Not sure the clamp shown there matches up with the one on the Aerowind side view photo above, but can't tell for sure.
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Shimano made a top-tube mount version of the Adamas AX shifters - the SL-AD24. The side-view of the Aerowind in the OP's 2nd post above seems to show a clamp of some sort nestled up against the headtube; I'd guess that's the clamp for that particular shifter variant.
Unfortunately, the photo of the SL-AD24 in the Velobase link is quite poor - too poor to tell if that's it or not. And I guess it's possible Huffy put mounting bosses on the headtube and used the downtube boss-mount versions there instead.
Edited to add: found a better picture of the SL-AD24 at Mike Sweatman's Disraeli Gears site:
https://www.disraeligears.co.uk/site...-_page_33.html
Not sure the clamp shown there matches up with the one on the Aerowind side view photo above, but can't tell for sure.
Unfortunately, the photo of the SL-AD24 in the Velobase link is quite poor - too poor to tell if that's it or not. And I guess it's possible Huffy put mounting bosses on the headtube and used the downtube boss-mount versions there instead.
Edited to add: found a better picture of the SL-AD24 at Mike Sweatman's Disraeli Gears site:
https://www.disraeligears.co.uk/site...-_page_33.html
Not sure the clamp shown there matches up with the one on the Aerowind side view photo above, but can't tell for sure.
Here is a link with 16 good reference pics of an Aerowind -
https://budgetbicyclectr.com/1982-hu...ycle-58cm.html
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