Dating a Faggin -- Update and photos
06-28-21, 07:01 AM
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Dating a Faggin -- Update and photos
Here is a late 1980s Faggin with data and photos. I would be very interested in hearing your thoughts. It was hardly ridden and looks to me as if nearly everything, including tires and tape, is original. I did put in a new generic seatpost binder bolt. The front derailleur is correct to the period and may have been original, but I really don’t know. Everything else seems to be the Campy Victory group, but for some parts I am unsure of model. --Dan in Toronto
Frame: Columbus tubing, 55 cm seat tube (center of BB to top of tube)
Cranks: Campagnolo Victory (?) 170mm
Chainrings: Campagnolo 42, 52
Rear derailleur: Campagnolo Victory
Front derailleur: Suntour 7000
Freewheel: Maillard 14-19
Handlebar: Cinelli 64-40
Seat post: Campagnolo Victory (?)
Brake calipers, levers, rubber hoods, pads: Campagnolo Victory
Pedals: Campagnolo Victory with cages and leather straps
Hubs: Campagnolo Victory (?)
Rims: Mavic MA 40
Tires: Vittoria Florida “19”
Saddle: Selle Italia Turbo
Frame: Columbus tubing, 55 cm seat tube (center of BB to top of tube)
Cranks: Campagnolo Victory (?) 170mm
Chainrings: Campagnolo 42, 52
Rear derailleur: Campagnolo Victory
Front derailleur: Suntour 7000
Freewheel: Maillard 14-19
Handlebar: Cinelli 64-40
Seat post: Campagnolo Victory (?)
Brake calipers, levers, rubber hoods, pads: Campagnolo Victory
Pedals: Campagnolo Victory with cages and leather straps
Hubs: Campagnolo Victory (?)
Rims: Mavic MA 40
Tires: Vittoria Florida “19”
Saddle: Selle Italia Turbo
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06-28-21, 08:01 AM
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Crank is actually "Triomphe", slightly lesser rank, but I believe lighter than the chunky "Victory". Don
Campagnolo Victory crank (from eBay illustration)
Campagnolo Victory crank (from eBay illustration)
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06-28-21, 08:04 AM
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Wow. Just wow. Keep and cherish it.
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...I don't know much about this one, either. Other than to say this was how they came sometimes. I had never seen a blue one before. The paint on mine is best described as "fragile". But yeah, I don't think this one got much ridden either. Which is not to say it's not a fine riding bicycle. The subtle and not so subtle differences between yours and mine (like the seat stay junction) are interesting, and might relate to when made.)
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06-28-21, 10:06 AM
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You could ask the source...
https://www.fagginbikes.com/en/
https://www.fagginbikes.com/en/
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You could ask the source...
https://www.fagginbikes.com/en/
https://www.fagginbikes.com/en/
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I am starting to think Faggin is one of the quirkier builders around this time period.
From what I understand, there are some production level un-named models and some customs floating around.
There are one-offs and "practice models" for master/apprentices and I think I have one of those odd ball ones. Especially since I think they were trying to move some stock "Matrix" engraved BBs with a Cromor sticker.
I have also heard that other than the production models, they sometimes had fun with the paint jobs experimenting.
From what I understand, there are some production level un-named models and some customs floating around.
There are one-offs and "practice models" for master/apprentices and I think I have one of those odd ball ones. Especially since I think they were trying to move some stock "Matrix" engraved BBs with a Cromor sticker.
I have also heard that other than the production models, they sometimes had fun with the paint jobs experimenting.
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I would at least take go out to dinner before you attempt to ride her.
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...I don't know much about this one, either. Other than to say this was how they came sometimes. I had never seen a blue one before. The paint on mine is best described as "fragile". But yeah, I don't think this one got much ridden either. Which is not to say it's not a fine riding bicycle. The subtle and not so subtle differences between yours and mine (like the seat stay junction) are interesting, and might relate to when made.)
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Thanks, Don. I wasn't aware of how close Victory was to Triomphe. I think much of the bike (brake levers, for sure) is Triomphe. I will do more research and revise. Thanks for pointing this out. Dan.
