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700 x 48-50 slick/semi-slick road/gravel

Old 04-25-22, 08:49 PM
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700 x 48-50 slick/semi-slick road/gravel

Was looking at tires in this size range to replace my Panaracer Gravelking SK 50. I have a second set of wheels with Rene Herse Fleecer Ridge for more off-road/rough road. Wanna stay in the 48-50mm range. No wider or narrower.

I’m thinking the Hatcher Pass Tubeless might be the best in class for this size for primarily road and light gravel/dirt. I tried the G-One Speed tires years ago and they were honestly not that great for a slick tire. Other than those two I struggled to find a more road oriented tire in that size range.

If anyone has any other thoughts or suggestions I’d greatly appreciate it.
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Schwalbe is probably your best bet, although most of them are cruiser type tires. I thought the fat S-one was amazing when it came out (well ahead of its time) - curious as to what you didn't like about it?
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Originally Posted by chas58
Schwalbe is probably your best bet, although most of them are cruiser type tires. I thought the fat S-one was amazing when it came out (well ahead of its time) - curious as to what you didn't like about it?
I ran them on a ~ 20 mi. Group ride a few years back and they felt super draggy the entire ride. When I looked into it, turns out the g-one speed had way more rolling resistance compared to similar or mor knobby tires
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Originally Posted by DarKris
I ran them on a ~ 20 mi. Group ride a few years back and they felt super draggy the entire ride. When I looked into it, turns out the g-one speed had way more rolling resistance compared to similar or mor knobby tires
Odd. I'd consider giving them another try if you wanted an alternative. They fell super fast to me (I'm using the 60mm version). They have always been way below everything in rolling resistance on BRR web site for about 6 years now.

Here is a custom graph comparing it to the fastest MTB tires tested. They are the line at the bottom of the graph with the super low rolling resistance. Back in the day the original version of the G-one Speed was called "big one"

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Odd. I'd consider giving them another try if you wanted an alternative. They fell super fast to me (I'm using the 60mm version). They have always been way below everything in rolling resistance on BRR web site for about 6 years now.
The big one uses a different rubber compound and casing which has been attributed to the lower rolling resistance . New ones are significantly slower and my experience reinforced that for me
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Originally Posted by chas58
Odd. I'd consider giving them another try if you wanted an alternative. They fell super fast to me (I'm using the 60mm version). They have always been way below everything in rolling resistance on BRR web site for about 6 years now.
The big one uses a different rubber compound and casing which has been attributed to the lower rolling resistance . New ones are significantly slower and my experience reinforced that for me
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Originally Posted by DarKris
The big one uses a different rubber compound and casing which has been attributed to the lower rolling resistance . New ones are significantly slower and my experience reinforced that for me
That bites. But apparently your comment applies to the whole G-One range. Those tires were the one's to beat when they came out (I loved them), but something went sideways with the latest generation.
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Soma Supple Vitesse SL 48mm will be the second fastest to the ReneHerse 48mm.
The 48mm is tubeless compatible.
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Originally Posted by tangerineowl
Soma Supple Vitesse SL 48mm will be the second fastest to the ReneHerse 48mm.
The 48mm is tubeless compatible.
This was a great find! Ordered them in Terracotta. Thanks!
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My tires came today. Significantly less of a cost compared to the RH tires and these are still a huge weight savings. Tires weight ~410g each which is ~160g less than the Gravelking SKs I had.

Now I have a dedicated road wheelset and gravel/trail wheelset







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DarKris,

If you have calipers, would you be able to measure the tyre width on your 25mmInner rim?

I've been considering these for a while, but don't want to have too tight a fit in my frame rear.

thanks
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Originally Posted by tangerineowl
DarKris,

If you have calipers, would you be able to measure the tyre width on your 25mmInner rim?

I've been considering these for a while, but don't want to have too tight a fit in my frame rear.

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i measured 48.5 mm when I mounted them at 45 psi. I don’t see it stretching past 50 mm long term.

The tread is stiff and has a very rounded profile. That probably won’t stretch too much either
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The Conti Urban Contacts have had some very good reviews. Not sure on grip levels but as semi slick seem to be a good choice. Fast rolling, decent puncture protection and not too heavy
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Conti just announced these (just for you! ;-)

https://www.bikeradar.com/news/conti...erra-hardpack/

45mm Terra Speed if you want a lighter, faster tire.

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Originally Posted by chas58
Conti just announced these (just for you! ;-)

https://www.bikeradar.com/news/conti...erra-hardpack/

45mm Terra Speed if you want a lighter, faster tire.

I'm sad Conti dropped the ball here, not going the 'Racesport' treatment on that 50mm variation of the 2.2inch Speedking
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