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MSR Pocket Rocket on the left, and a Primus Duo stove on the right. The Primus will take both screw and slip on canisters. It is quite a bit heavier than the MSR.
Primus Duo Stove
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Not many options for flying with fuel exist. I guess you can fly with an unopened bottle of Everclear if you use an alcohol burner
When it comes to pop can stoves confiscation wouldn't be too bad since you can make another. If I was real worried I could start each trip with a new one but they burn clean enough that I have never had one confiscated, even when I accidently had a used one in my personal item and they swabbed everything. Even the pocket rocket has been fine, but I worry more about it. I figure the SVEA 123 and my MSR Whisperlite International have a more likely than not chance of getting confiscated unless a super good job of cleaning is done and even then I'd be concerned. As a result I have not flown with them. If I am driving I might take them and if flying I either use something else of ship it ahead of time.
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Here in Sweden, a Trangia burner costs about $15, so taking a new one every trip could be an option. The pot tongs should be in checked baggage as they might be construed as a dangerous weapon. Any "tools" including hex keys can be refused as hand baggage.
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Not sure about that. I thought anything flammable except a BIC lighter in your pocket will be refused.
Here in Sweden, a Trangia burner costs about $15, so taking a new one every trip could be an option. The pot tongs should be in checked baggage as they might be construed as a dangerous weapon. Any "tools" including hex keys can be refused as hand baggage.
Here in Sweden, a Trangia burner costs about $15, so taking a new one every trip could be an option. The pot tongs should be in checked baggage as they might be construed as a dangerous weapon. Any "tools" including hex keys can be refused as hand baggage.
https://www.tsa.gov/blog/2019/06/21/...veling-alcohol
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The threat of TSA confiscation exists with liquid fueled stoves or fuel containers that could conceivably retain a residue or a residual odor. Gas canister stoves like the pocket rocket are fine as opposed to the canisters themselves. I've been flying out West for a dozen years with my buds and an assortment of MSR and Snowpeak burners without issue, in the checked baggage of course.
I weighed my Svea (empty) and my MSR WhisperLite with a small empty fuel flask and found the "outdated" Svea to be lighter. I used the Svea on my most recent outing even though the temp was in the mid teens, and the output was noticeably reduced. I usually use the WhisperLite in cold conditions as it is pretty much unaffected.
When on the bike in warm weather, the cold temp advantage of the liquid burners is gone and I go for my PocketRocket 2. On the aforementioned summer trips when morning temps are often near or at freezing, the canister stoves work acceptably well.
I weighed my Svea (empty) and my MSR WhisperLite with a small empty fuel flask and found the "outdated" Svea to be lighter. I used the Svea on my most recent outing even though the temp was in the mid teens, and the output was noticeably reduced. I usually use the WhisperLite in cold conditions as it is pretty much unaffected.
When on the bike in warm weather, the cold temp advantage of the liquid burners is gone and I go for my PocketRocket 2. On the aforementioned summer trips when morning temps are often near or at freezing, the canister stoves work acceptably well.
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Are you weighing the whole only the burner for the SVEA? If I weighed the whole stove mine was heavier than my Whisperlite even with a large 20 oz. bottle. Still reasonable enough though.
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I weighed the whole thing IIRC. It was close, but lighter. I have an old Whisperlite, maybe the newer ones are lighter. Did this a long time ago, I used to have a produce scale I inherited from an uncle.
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BTW, my 123 was used but in good shape from a flea market in about 1972. I paid $8.
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thats hilarious that you remember what it cost you nearly 50 years ago!
It really is curious how some stuff sticks in our brains, little goofy details, yet other stuff just leaks out of our memories.....
Ive worked a fair amount looking after people with alzheimers, and its classic how the old entrenched memories stay solid much longer than the recent stuff.
very curious things our brains. Look also at how you can hear a song, and you can vividly recall all kinds of details from when you heard it back in god knows when....
It really is curious how some stuff sticks in our brains, little goofy details, yet other stuff just leaks out of our memories.....
Ive worked a fair amount looking after people with alzheimers, and its classic how the old entrenched memories stay solid much longer than the recent stuff.
very curious things our brains. Look also at how you can hear a song, and you can vividly recall all kinds of details from when you heard it back in god knows when....
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But, you never know if you will get an overly cautious inspector, apparently some confiscate all stoves they find unless they are in new packaging. They are in a work environment where they are unlikely to get in trouble if they are overly stringent.
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thats hilarious that you remember what it cost you nearly 50 years ago!
It really is curious how some stuff sticks in our brains, little goofy details, yet other stuff just leaks out of our memories.....
Ive worked a fair amount looking after people with alzheimers, and its classic how the old entrenched memories stay solid much longer than the recent stuff.
very curious things our brains. Look also at how you can hear a song, and you can vividly recall all kinds of details from when you heard it back in god knows when....
It really is curious how some stuff sticks in our brains, little goofy details, yet other stuff just leaks out of our memories.....
Ive worked a fair amount looking after people with alzheimers, and its classic how the old entrenched memories stay solid much longer than the recent stuff.
very curious things our brains. Look also at how you can hear a song, and you can vividly recall all kinds of details from when you heard it back in god knows when....
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thats hilarious that you remember what it cost you nearly 50 years ago!
It really is curious how some stuff sticks in our brains, little goofy details, yet other stuff just leaks out of our memories.....
Ive worked a fair amount looking after people with alzheimers, and its classic how the old entrenched memories stay solid much longer than the recent stuff.
very curious things our brains. Look also at how you can hear a song, and you can vividly recall all kinds of details from when you heard it back in god knows when....
It really is curious how some stuff sticks in our brains, little goofy details, yet other stuff just leaks out of our memories.....
Ive worked a fair amount looking after people with alzheimers, and its classic how the old entrenched memories stay solid much longer than the recent stuff.
very curious things our brains. Look also at how you can hear a song, and you can vividly recall all kinds of details from when you heard it back in god knows when....
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I am pretty sure I paid between $5 and $10 USD for three used Svea stoves, this was in the early to mid 70s. A camping store in Minneapolis was moving and they were cleaning house. A box was labeled make offer, some of the stuff in it was used. I asked what they wanted for the three Svea stoves, they named a price. With all my coin and paper money, I was a few bucks short, they agreed to take it. Another customer saw that and offered a small amount for the 8R stoves in the box and they accepted that, and he paid less than I paid. I was angry at myself for not asking about the 8R stoves besides the Svea stoves, I might have gotten them too. That was before Visa or Mastercard existed.
Last time I used a Svea was backpacking in Grand Canyon, that was seven years ago. One of the park rangers was curious about my stove.
Last time I used a Svea was backpacking in Grand Canyon, that was seven years ago. One of the park rangers was curious about my stove.