Ebike catches fire on trail in San Clemente
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absolute ton of e-bikes ridden in san clemente to/from trestles and elsewhere by the surfers.
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The wife and I have been hiking on the multi-use trails in Crystal Cove State Park and it's surprising how many of the mountain bike riders are on electric bikes.
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I just try to avoid e-bikes. Staying in the hills, I rarely see them.
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When I see them on the road they don't really bother me that much. But when I see them on a trail it seems like someone is riding a dirt bike (motorcycle) that an regular bike.
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At what point do motorized bicycles and scooters become motorized vehicles and should be regulated as such? Unpopular opinion, most cycling incidents I have seen or been apart of, have been because one or more parties were being stupid. The car that almost hit you would do so if you were in a car. Its not personal. Add a generation that can't even drive, and people who would have otherwise self selected themselves out of cycling, and give them a motor? But the state would have to enforce any of its current laws and there is a reason insurance is high in California (look for how many expired tags you see on the road; they're not insured and probably aren't licensed).
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At what point do motorized bicycles and scooters become motorized vehicles and should be regulated as such? Unpopular opinion, most cycling incidents I have seen or been apart of, have been because one or more parties were being stupid. The car that almost hit you would do so if you were in a car. Its not personal. Add a generation that can't even drive, and people who would have otherwise self selected themselves out of cycling, and give them a motor? But the state would have to enforce any of its current laws and there is a reason insurance is high in California (look for how many expired tags you see on the road; they're not insured and probably aren't licensed).
I'll bet the insurance & tow companies would back such a measure.
The uncomfortable truth is America is a third world nation with no regard for laws, order, or personal responsibility.
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Yep, no argument from me there. Hit and runs on cyclists in SoCal are weekly occurrences.
The solution is to make any accident presumed liability on the unlicensed vehicle, & make the penalty for any unlicensed vehicle automatic impoundment.
I'll bet the insurance & tow companies would back such a measure.
The uncomfortable truth is America is a third world nation with no regard for laws, order, or personal responsibility.
I'll bet the insurance & tow companies would back such a measure.
The uncomfortable truth is America is a third world nation with no regard for laws, order, or personal responsibility.
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Relatively speaking most of the country is not like this. That's why California has higher insurance and other rates. Either you pay on the front end or the back end. No really, the amount of ignorance of how the rest of the country actually lives is akin to the propaganda from the DPRK.
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Relatively speaking most of the country is not like this. That's why California has higher insurance and other rates. Either you pay on the front end or the back end. No really, the amount of ignorance of how the rest of the country actually lives is akin to the propaganda from the DPRK.
Refugees from Texas.
Refugees from Alabama.
Refugees from Mississippi.
Refugees from Kansas.
Refugees from the Dakotas.
Refugees from Wyoming.
Refugees from Montana.
All unlicensed vehicles with expired tabs I saw on a 15 mile drive around town this morning.
Where the tax dollars flow is a matter of public record & there is no need to quantify who carries who & who has no idea the socialism they are on the receiving end of. Doing so will quickly take this thread to P&R never to return.
Let's leave this as is & just agree that for the most part that yes, California sucks, it isn't particularly exceptional in it's deviation from the mean. People are people & we have a real problem looking at ourselves in the mirror.
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At what point do motorized bicycles and scooters become motorized vehicles and should be regulated as such? Unpopular opinion, most cycling incidents I have seen or been apart of, have been because one or more parties were being stupid. The car that almost hit you would do so if you were in a car. Its not personal. Add a generation that can't even drive, and people who would have otherwise self selected themselves out of cycling, and give them a motor? But the state would have to enforce any of its current laws and there is a reason insurance is high in California (look for how many expired tags you see on the road; they're not insured and probably aren't licensed).