After 5 flats, I am done with Vittoria Corsa 2.0 tires
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After 5 flats, I am done with Vittoria Corsa 2.0 tires
2,500 miles, two sets of the Corsas. Yesterday I experienced a flat 25 miles from home and about 10 miles from the nearest bike shop I knew of. My AAA coverage does 'tow' bicycles so after a 45 minute wait, I was off to Erik's for repair and/or tire repair. One inspection of the rear tire and it was obvious it was shot. So this time, I went with the Vittoria Rubinos. I am hoping they are a little more robust and will not be prone to pinch flats and punctures. I know that MPLS doesn't keep their streets nearly as clean as in days gone by, but I am pretty darn careful about what I run over. Anyone else have similar experiences with the Corsa 2.0's? Or am I just unlucky?
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I used to get flats at about that frequency and riding on the same roads, which is why I went tubeless five or six years ago (I didn't want to go with an armored tire). Also, I have always had the impression that Corsas weren't terribly puncture resistant (that said, the TLR version is still on my list of tires to try).
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I had trouble with the Corsas. Chunks of rubber started coming off while riding in the mountains on a chip seal road, big chunks. Never had that with the Rubinos.
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I've had good luck with the corsa control TLR. I run orange sealant. But I also don't ride on bad roads.
I would never ever consider using a Corsa without sealant. This tire is cursed (from what I've seen).
Afaik the rubinos aren't necessarily designed as an armored tire. They just are made differently - vulcanized + nylon instead of glued-on + cotton. But I bet you'll have better luck with them anyhow.
I would never ever consider using a Corsa without sealant. This tire is cursed (from what I've seen).
Afaik the rubinos aren't necessarily designed as an armored tire. They just are made differently - vulcanized + nylon instead of glued-on + cotton. But I bet you'll have better luck with them anyhow.
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I wish I had the luxury of only riding on good roads. Here in Minnesota we deal with frost heaves, filled potholes, cracks and broken glass, twigs and sharp rocks. For years I rode my old Trek with tubular tires and nary a flat. 7,000 miles on my Bianchi and only 1 flat. My new Pinarello and 5 flats. Frustrating. Same roads, routes but older eyes make contribute to the issue, but I really think a big part is the fragile nature of the Corsas.
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Blackbike "A" came with those when purchased new. Tire rides like butter, but the flats were frequent. too frequent. Found much more success (resistance) with GP4000's. "B" has gatorskins, and those put holes in the road instead of the other way around.
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I had terrible luck with the Corsa G+ 1.0, flatted after 250 miles and when I inspected the tread there were small holes and thin sections letting light pass through everywhere, which did not give me confidence to run them any longer. Shame because the skinwall looks fantastic.
No such issues with Conti GP 4/5K TL, Michelin Pro 4 Endurance, or Schwalbe Pro Ones TLE. Only other tires I've ever run that were close to as weak were the Specialized Turbo Pros that came on one bike.
No such issues with Conti GP 4/5K TL, Michelin Pro 4 Endurance, or Schwalbe Pro Ones TLE. Only other tires I've ever run that were close to as weak were the Specialized Turbo Pros that came on one bike.
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Been riding Corsa Controls for about a year without a flat (tubed). NY metro region. Was flat in the sidewall area or the tread section?
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I so wanted to love the Vittoria tires I had, they were a sweet riding tire, but it seemed like I was a flat magnet with them. The Conti GP4 II's I had used before only had a couple over 3k miles.
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I had some Corsa G+ and they were puncture magnets! Getting 4 punctures on a single 40 mile ride was the final straw! I swapped them out for some GP5000's never looked back since!
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They do appear to have a reputation for being fragile. I would run them tubeless for sure. Or pick a more robust tyre. Or both!
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Been running Vittoria Rubino Pros on one Tarmac - like them well enough. No real flat issues and tread is holding up. I run them at 80 frt, 85+ rr on HED 23width wheels.
I ride with tubes - have only one wheelset appro for tubeless... I'm also fairly light at 150 lbs, so many tires can feel harsh, if I put too much air.
Casing on the Rubinos is a little hard, but not unreasonably... Still Like the Conti 4000s for feel and mileage on them is highest I've ever gotten on a premium tire...
Had a supply... and haven't ridden much in the past 3-4 yrs (sadly), so not the same turnover as before...
I'm looking forward to trying the 5000s and having to put on new tires every 3-4 mos... LOL!
...startin to happen.... yeah!
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I ride with tubes - have only one wheelset appro for tubeless... I'm also fairly light at 150 lbs, so many tires can feel harsh, if I put too much air.
Casing on the Rubinos is a little hard, but not unreasonably... Still Like the Conti 4000s for feel and mileage on them is highest I've ever gotten on a premium tire...
Had a supply... and haven't ridden much in the past 3-4 yrs (sadly), so not the same turnover as before...
I'm looking forward to trying the 5000s and having to put on new tires every 3-4 mos... LOL!
...startin to happen.... yeah!
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I’ve been riding the Rubinos for several years now and no problems. I’m trying the 5000s now. I really don’t know why, just thought I would try something different.
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Do you know for certain that your flats were from the road hazards you blame them on? If the hole in the tube is not on the tread side of the tire, then road hazards definitely aren't your issue and you are wrongly assuming your tire is to blame.
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The conditions up here aren't great for RDO tires, not unless you're running tubeless.
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If you're having a lot of flats and can't seem to get it under control then you are a candidate for tubeless.
You can blame the tires, conditions, and ultimately the rider for how they ride and what they pay attention to but at the end of the day tubeless was invented to help prevent flats and it is better at it than anything else at this point.
You can blame the tires, conditions, and ultimately the rider for how they ride and what they pay attention to but at the end of the day tubeless was invented to help prevent flats and it is better at it than anything else at this point.
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It's really just about flats. If you have them a lot and they bug you then think about tubeless. If you hardly ever get flats then tubeless isn't even remotely worth it.
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I haven't' changed. It's a horrible system if you aren't having problems with flats. If flats find you and it's the worst thing that could ever happen to you then time to think of tubeless.
It's really just about flats. If you have them a lot and they bug you then think about tubeless. If you hardly ever get flats then tubeless isn't even remotely worth it.
It's really just about flats. If you have them a lot and they bug you then think about tubeless. If you hardly ever get flats then tubeless isn't even remotely worth it.
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FIVE flats? Find different roads to ride. Problem solved.
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I used to ride on Corsa G+ tires. They are AMAZING. But maaaaaaan I used to get flat after flat after about 1000 miles. Cuts and cracks all over. Those tires wear out fast.
I have been riding GP5000s since whenever April. Zero flats with almost equal performance. Some flats are just bad luck but I have been riding about on those without any flats about 3000mi. So so so very happy.
I have been riding GP5000s since whenever April. Zero flats with almost equal performance. Some flats are just bad luck but I have been riding about on those without any flats about 3000mi. So so so very happy.
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I now have a couple hundred miles on mine but this thread made me nervous of course. On today’s 26 mile ride I was on our blacktop which is ok at best and usually worse and on the bike lanes along Palos Verdes Dr which is bits of road mixed with dirt/rock/glass, mostly small bits. You rarely ride without the crunchy sound of it and so I decided to intentionally not avoid anything. I went over it all and there are no visible marks or cuts or anything on my tires they look perfect. Riding in the 85psi range, 25c width tan walls. Hope my luck continues but feeling less nervous.
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I wish I had the luxury of only riding on good roads. Here in Minnesota we deal with frost heaves, filled potholes, cracks and broken glass, twigs and sharp rocks. For years I rode my old Trek with tubular tires and nary a flat. 7,000 miles on my Bianchi and only 1 flat. My new Pinarello and 5 flats. Frustrating. Same roads, routes but older eyes make contribute to the issue, but I really think a big part is the fragile nature of the Corsas.
That said, I used to get 6-8 flats per year until I went to tubeless tubulars with sealant. I've since migrated to tubeless clinchers on my road bikes and I can't remember the last time I got a flat. Part of it, for me, was pinch flats on road defects by then the sealant plugs holes fast enough I don't always even know it happened. I do about 4000 miles a year, so I'm at about 10,000 miles without a flat. Not bad, in my book. On my road bike is Corsa Controls mounted tubeless 28c. On my gravel bike is Schwalbe G-1 speed 30c. I don't notice any difference between the two vis a vis flats.
If you were riding tubulars and weren't getting flats, I'm guessing the primary culprit are pinch flats. Solution to that for clinchers is tubeless.
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