Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Road Cycling
Reload this Page >

After 5 flats, I am done with Vittoria Corsa 2.0 tires

Notices
Road Cycling “It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. Thus you remember them as they actually are, while in a motor car only a high hill impresses you, and you have no such accurate remembrance of country you have driven through as you gain by riding a bicycle.” -- Ernest Hemingway

After 5 flats, I am done with Vittoria Corsa 2.0 tires

Old 09-03-21, 10:42 AM
  #1  
ultrarider7
Full Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 426

Bikes: 1964 Schwinn Varsity, 1985 Trek 410, 1985 Peugeot P 8, 2021 Pinarello Dogma F12, 2022 Cannondale Topstone Alloy

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 106 Post(s)
Liked 1,102 Times in 327 Posts
After 5 flats, I am done with Vittoria Corsa 2.0 tires

2,500 miles, two sets of the Corsas. Yesterday I experienced a flat 25 miles from home and about 10 miles from the nearest bike shop I knew of. My AAA coverage does 'tow' bicycles so after a 45 minute wait, I was off to Erik's for repair and/or tire repair. One inspection of the rear tire and it was obvious it was shot. So this time, I went with the Vittoria Rubinos. I am hoping they are a little more robust and will not be prone to pinch flats and punctures. I know that MPLS doesn't keep their streets nearly as clean as in days gone by, but I am pretty darn careful about what I run over. Anyone else have similar experiences with the Corsa 2.0's? Or am I just unlucky?
ultrarider7 is offline  
Old 09-03-21, 10:57 AM
  #2  
WhyFi
Senior Member
 
WhyFi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: TC, MN
Posts: 39,505

Bikes: R3 Disc, Haanjo

Mentioned: 353 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 20791 Post(s)
Liked 9,436 Times in 4,663 Posts
I used to get flats at about that frequency and riding on the same roads, which is why I went tubeless five or six years ago (I didn't want to go with an armored tire). Also, I have always had the impression that Corsas weren't terribly puncture resistant (that said, the TLR version is still on my list of tires to try).
WhyFi is offline  
Old 09-03-21, 11:02 AM
  #3  
big john
Senior Member
 
big john's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: In the foothills of Los Angeles County
Posts: 25,107
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8191 Post(s)
Liked 8,852 Times in 4,397 Posts
I had trouble with the Corsas. Chunks of rubber started coming off while riding in the mountains on a chip seal road, big chunks. Never had that with the Rubinos.
big john is offline  
Old 09-03-21, 11:13 AM
  #4  
smashndash
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 1,410

Bikes: 2017 Specialized Allez Sprint Comp

Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 850 Post(s)
Liked 344 Times in 247 Posts
I've had good luck with the corsa control TLR. I run orange sealant. But I also don't ride on bad roads.

I would never ever consider using a Corsa without sealant. This tire is cursed (from what I've seen).

Afaik the rubinos aren't necessarily designed as an armored tire. They just are made differently - vulcanized + nylon instead of glued-on + cotton. But I bet you'll have better luck with them anyhow.
smashndash is offline  
Old 09-03-21, 11:18 AM
  #5  
ultrarider7
Full Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 426

Bikes: 1964 Schwinn Varsity, 1985 Trek 410, 1985 Peugeot P 8, 2021 Pinarello Dogma F12, 2022 Cannondale Topstone Alloy

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 106 Post(s)
Liked 1,102 Times in 327 Posts
I wish I had the luxury of only riding on good roads. Here in Minnesota we deal with frost heaves, filled potholes, cracks and broken glass, twigs and sharp rocks. For years I rode my old Trek with tubular tires and nary a flat. 7,000 miles on my Bianchi and only 1 flat. My new Pinarello and 5 flats. Frustrating. Same roads, routes but older eyes make contribute to the issue, but I really think a big part is the fragile nature of the Corsas.
ultrarider7 is offline  
Old 09-03-21, 11:35 AM
  #6  
blacknbluebikes 
Senior Member
 
blacknbluebikes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: NJ, USA
Posts: 1,276

Bikes: two blacks, a blue and a white.

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 442 Post(s)
Liked 840 Times in 407 Posts
Blackbike "A" came with those when purchased new. Tire rides like butter, but the flats were frequent. too frequent. Found much more success (resistance) with GP4000's. "B" has gatorskins, and those put holes in the road instead of the other way around.
blacknbluebikes is offline  
Old 09-03-21, 11:53 AM
  #7  
surak
Senior Member
 
surak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Seattle
Posts: 1,949

Bikes: Specialized Roubaix, Canyon Inflite AL SLX, Ibis Ripley AF, Priority Continuum Onyx, Santana Vision, Kent Dual-Drive Tandem

Mentioned: 20 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 871 Post(s)
Liked 725 Times in 436 Posts
I had terrible luck with the Corsa G+ 1.0, flatted after 250 miles and when I inspected the tread there were small holes and thin sections letting light pass through everywhere, which did not give me confidence to run them any longer. Shame because the skinwall looks fantastic.

No such issues with Conti GP 4/5K TL, Michelin Pro 4 Endurance, or Schwalbe Pro Ones TLE. Only other tires I've ever run that were close to as weak were the Specialized Turbo Pros that came on one bike.
surak is offline  
Old 09-03-21, 01:14 PM
  #8  
Sy Reene
Advocatus Diaboli
 
Sy Reene's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Wherever I am
Posts: 8,613

Bikes: Merlin Cyrene, Nashbar steel CX

Mentioned: 14 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4717 Post(s)
Liked 1,526 Times in 997 Posts
Been riding Corsa Controls for about a year without a flat (tubed). NY metro region. Was flat in the sidewall area or the tread section?
Sy Reene is offline  
Old 09-03-21, 03:58 PM
  #9  
jaxgtr
Senior Member
 
jaxgtr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Posts: 6,832

Bikes: Trek Domane SLR 7 AXS, Trek CheckPoint SL7, Trek Emonda ALR, Trek FX 5 Sport

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 752 Post(s)
Liked 1,666 Times in 980 Posts
I so wanted to love the Vittoria tires I had, they were a sweet riding tire, but it seemed like I was a flat magnet with them. The Conti GP4 II's I had used before only had a couple over 3k miles.
__________________
Brian | 2023 Trek Domane SLR 7 AXS | 2023 Trek CheckPoint SL 7 AXS | 2016 Trek Emonda ALR | 2022 Trek FX Sport 5
Originally Posted by AEO
you should learn to embrace change, and mock it's failings every step of the way.



jaxgtr is offline  
Old 09-03-21, 04:53 PM
  #10  
sw20
Full Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Surrey, UK
Posts: 255
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 99 Post(s)
Liked 41 Times in 26 Posts
I had some Corsa G+ and they were puncture magnets! Getting 4 punctures on a single 40 mile ride was the final straw! I swapped them out for some GP5000's never looked back since!
sw20 is offline  
Old 09-03-21, 04:55 PM
  #11  
Rage
Space Ghost
 
Rage's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: NYC
Posts: 1,762

Bikes: Bridgestone, Fuji, Iro, Jamis, Gary Fisher, GT, Scott, Specialized and more

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 292 Post(s)
Liked 411 Times in 317 Posts
I had a pair. They sucked.
Rage is offline  
Old 09-03-21, 06:21 PM
  #12  
PeteHski
Senior Member
 
PeteHski's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2021
Posts: 8,182
Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4274 Post(s)
Liked 4,718 Times in 2,913 Posts
They do appear to have a reputation for being fragile. I would run them tubeless for sure. Or pick a more robust tyre. Or both!
PeteHski is offline  
Old 09-03-21, 06:30 PM
  #13  
cyclezen
OM boy
 
cyclezen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Goleta CA
Posts: 4,340

Bikes: a bunch

Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 502 Post(s)
Liked 623 Times in 425 Posts
Been running Vittoria Rubino Pros on one Tarmac - like them well enough. No real flat issues and tread is holding up. I run them at 80 frt, 85+ rr on HED 23width wheels.
I ride with tubes - have only one wheelset appro for tubeless... I'm also fairly light at 150 lbs, so many tires can feel harsh, if I put too much air.
Casing on the Rubinos is a little hard, but not unreasonably... Still Like the Conti 4000s for feel and mileage on them is highest I've ever gotten on a premium tire...
Had a supply... and haven't ridden much in the past 3-4 yrs (sadly), so not the same turnover as before...
I'm looking forward to trying the 5000s and having to put on new tires every 3-4 mos... LOL!
...startin to happen.... yeah!
Thx
Yuri
cyclezen is offline  
Old 09-04-21, 08:10 AM
  #14  
George
Senior Member
 
George's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Katy Texas
Posts: 5,668

Bikes: Specialized Roubaix

Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 92 Post(s)
Liked 51 Times in 30 Posts
I’ve been riding the Rubinos for several years now and no problems. I’m trying the 5000s now. I really don’t know why, just thought I would try something different.
__________________
George
George is offline  
Old 09-04-21, 11:04 AM
  #15  
Iride01 
I'm good to go!
 
Iride01's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Mississippi
Posts: 14,811

Bikes: Tarmac Disc Comp Di2 - 2020

Mentioned: 50 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6100 Post(s)
Liked 4,732 Times in 3,262 Posts
Do you know for certain that your flats were from the road hazards you blame them on? If the hole in the tube is not on the tread side of the tire, then road hazards definitely aren't your issue and you are wrongly assuming your tire is to blame.
Iride01 is offline  
Old 09-04-21, 11:41 AM
  #16  
WhyFi
Senior Member
 
WhyFi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: TC, MN
Posts: 39,505

Bikes: R3 Disc, Haanjo

Mentioned: 353 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 20791 Post(s)
Liked 9,436 Times in 4,663 Posts
Originally Posted by Iride01
Do you know for certain that your flats were from the road hazards you blame them on? If the hole in the tube is not on the tread side of the tire, then road hazards definitely aren't your issue and you are wrongly assuming your tire is to blame.
The conditions up here aren't great for RDO tires, not unless you're running tubeless.
WhyFi is offline  
Old 09-04-21, 11:50 AM
  #17  
Psimet2001 
I eat carbide.
 
Psimet2001's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Elgin, IL
Posts: 21,627

Bikes: Lots. Van Dessel and Squid Dealer

Mentioned: 25 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1325 Post(s)
Liked 1,306 Times in 560 Posts
If you're having a lot of flats and can't seem to get it under control then you are a candidate for tubeless.

You can blame the tires, conditions, and ultimately the rider for how they ride and what they pay attention to but at the end of the day tubeless was invented to help prevent flats and it is better at it than anything else at this point.
__________________
PSIMET Wheels, PSIMET Racing, PSIMET Neutral Race Support, and 11 Jackson Coffee
Podcast - YouTube Channel
Video about PSIMET Wheels

Psimet2001 is offline  
Likes For Psimet2001:
Old 09-04-21, 11:53 AM
  #18  
WhyFi
Senior Member
 
WhyFi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: TC, MN
Posts: 39,505

Bikes: R3 Disc, Haanjo

Mentioned: 353 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 20791 Post(s)
Liked 9,436 Times in 4,663 Posts
Originally Posted by Psimet2001
You can blame the tires, conditions, and ultimately the rider for how they ride and what they pay attention to but at the end of the day tubeless was invented to help prevent flats and it is better at it than anything else at this point.
Who the **** are you and what did you do with Rob? Is he safe? Have you given your list of demands?
WhyFi is offline  
Old 09-04-21, 12:14 PM
  #19  
Psimet2001 
I eat carbide.
 
Psimet2001's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Elgin, IL
Posts: 21,627

Bikes: Lots. Van Dessel and Squid Dealer

Mentioned: 25 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1325 Post(s)
Liked 1,306 Times in 560 Posts
Originally Posted by WhyFi
Who the **** are you and what did you do with Rob? Is he safe? Have you given your list of demands?
I haven't' changed. It's a horrible system if you aren't having problems with flats. If flats find you and it's the worst thing that could ever happen to you then time to think of tubeless.

It's really just about flats. If you have them a lot and they bug you then think about tubeless. If you hardly ever get flats then tubeless isn't even remotely worth it.
__________________
PSIMET Wheels, PSIMET Racing, PSIMET Neutral Race Support, and 11 Jackson Coffee
Podcast - YouTube Channel
Video about PSIMET Wheels

Psimet2001 is offline  
Likes For Psimet2001:
Old 09-04-21, 01:42 PM
  #20  
deacon mark
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,964

Bikes: Habanero Titanium Team Nuevo

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 396 Post(s)
Liked 183 Times in 120 Posts
Originally Posted by Psimet2001
I haven't' changed. It's a horrible system if you aren't having problems with flats. If flats find you and it's the worst thing that could ever happen to you then time to think of tubeless.

It's really just about flats. If you have them a lot and they bug you then think about tubeless. If you hardly ever get flats then tubeless isn't even remotely worth it.
This is so true. I rarely have flats and the riders I know who do not flat much have no reason to go tubeless. Personally Conti GP5000 are pretty good they ride well and so far so good on flats.
deacon mark is offline  
Old 09-10-21, 01:42 PM
  #21  
GBK233
Full Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2021
Location: Syracuse NY
Posts: 244

Bikes: 2020 Giant Advanced 2, 2020 Giant Contend AR1

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 166 Post(s)
Liked 78 Times in 34 Posts
FIVE flats? Find different roads to ride. Problem solved.
GBK233 is offline  
Old 09-10-21, 02:14 PM
  #22  
rower2cyclist
Full Member
 
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 209

Bikes: Giant TCR Advanced Pro 0 Disc

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 105 Post(s)
Liked 69 Times in 35 Posts
I used to ride on Corsa G+ tires. They are AMAZING. But maaaaaaan I used to get flat after flat after about 1000 miles. Cuts and cracks all over. Those tires wear out fast.

I have been riding GP5000s since whenever April. Zero flats with almost equal performance. Some flats are just bad luck but I have been riding about on those without any flats about 3000mi. So so so very happy.
rower2cyclist is offline  
Old 09-17-21, 06:51 PM
  #23  
LibertyFLS
GDFTR
 
LibertyFLS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: Torrance CA
Posts: 156

Bikes: '74 Falcon San Remo, '80 SR Semi Pro, '88 Trek 360, '18 Fairdale Goodship

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 51 Post(s)
Liked 82 Times in 44 Posts
I now have a couple hundred miles on mine but this thread made me nervous of course. On today’s 26 mile ride I was on our blacktop which is ok at best and usually worse and on the bike lanes along Palos Verdes Dr which is bits of road mixed with dirt/rock/glass, mostly small bits. You rarely ride without the crunchy sound of it and so I decided to intentionally not avoid anything. I went over it all and there are no visible marks or cuts or anything on my tires they look perfect. Riding in the 85psi range, 25c width tan walls. Hope my luck continues but feeling less nervous.

Last edited by LibertyFLS; 09-17-21 at 07:41 PM.
LibertyFLS is offline  
Old 09-18-21, 09:39 PM
  #24  
JohnJ80
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 4,671

Bikes: N+1=5

Mentioned: 21 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 875 Post(s)
Liked 243 Times in 180 Posts
Originally Posted by ultrarider7
I wish I had the luxury of only riding on good roads. Here in Minnesota we deal with frost heaves, filled potholes, cracks and broken glass, twigs and sharp rocks. For years I rode my old Trek with tubular tires and nary a flat. 7,000 miles on my Bianchi and only 1 flat. My new Pinarello and 5 flats. Frustrating. Same roads, routes but older eyes make contribute to the issue, but I really think a big part is the fragile nature of the Corsas.
I also live and ride in Minnesota - not the best roads and I ride until the ground freezes in early December.

That said, I used to get 6-8 flats per year until I went to tubeless tubulars with sealant. I've since migrated to tubeless clinchers on my road bikes and I can't remember the last time I got a flat. Part of it, for me, was pinch flats on road defects by then the sealant plugs holes fast enough I don't always even know it happened. I do about 4000 miles a year, so I'm at about 10,000 miles without a flat. Not bad, in my book. On my road bike is Corsa Controls mounted tubeless 28c. On my gravel bike is Schwalbe G-1 speed 30c. I don't notice any difference between the two vis a vis flats.

If you were riding tubulars and weren't getting flats, I'm guessing the primary culprit are pinch flats. Solution to that for clinchers is tubeless.
JohnJ80 is offline  
Likes For JohnJ80:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.