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Bianchi Campione d'italia ID and parts help!

Old 09-22-21, 08:35 AM
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Bianchi Campione d'italia ID and parts help!

Hi guys,

Found this awesome frame in an estate sale and jumped on it. Trying to figure out what it is so I can start finding the appropriate parts to rebuild it! Specifically, looking for any info on the right BB and Headset, as well as any other recommendations.

I can't post pics yet, but it is a Campione D'Italia, in Celeste Green. It has external cable routing on top of the frame for a single cable, similar to what you'd see on a cyclocross bike or something. On the bottom of the frame, it has 'A400' marked into it, and there's an old sticker that is hard to read, but I can see '41185059' Not sure if thats a serial number or partial serial.

It also is marked with Dedacciai Double butted Cro-Mo tubing on both the frame and the fork, and has 'Made in Italy' 'Campione Del Mondo' and 'Campagnolo Equipped' stickers on it.

I have a ton of pics, and will get them up as soon as the forum allows.

Thanks!
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Originally Posted by dinosnores
Hi guys,

Found this awesome frame in an estate sale and jumped on it. Trying to figure out what it is so I can start finding the appropriate parts to rebuild it! Specifically, looking for any info on the right BB and Headset, as well as any other recommendations.

I can't post pics yet, but it is a Campione D'Italia, in Celeste Green. It has external cable routing on top of the frame for a single cable, similar to what you'd see on a cyclocross bike or something. On the bottom of the frame, it has 'A400' marked into it, and there's an old sticker that is hard to read, but I can see '41185059' Not sure if thats a serial number or partial serial.

It also is marked with Dedacciai Double butted Cro-Mo tubing on both the frame and the fork, and has 'Made in Italy' 'Campione Del Mondo' and 'Campagnolo Equipped' stickers on it.

I have a ton of pics, and will get them up as soon as the forum allows.

Thanks!
Welcome aboard, glad you found us, you're in the right place.

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Thanks for posting. It is somewhat newer than mine, given the decals, the vertical dropouts, and the unicrown fork.
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It looks a lot like my 1995 Campione D'Italia except mine has inside the top tube rear brake cable routing. Mine came with Campagnolo Mirage group, and Campagnolo rims. Mine also has the "made in Italy" decals, but the serial number and threading suggest the frame was actually made in Japan. As one member said, it depends whet your definition of "made" is.
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Originally Posted by John E
Thanks for posting. It is somewhat newer than mine, given the decals, the vertical dropouts, and the unicrown fork.

​​​​​​​Yeah, the cable routing threw me, as most of the ones i've been able to find with these decals also have the internal routing (which I actually prefer, tbh).

Which threading was yours? I'm trying to find a BB fairly quickly, but don't know how to figure out if it's italian or english.
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Dunno if I would doubt the "made in Italy" sticker but in '95 I don't think Japan would have been the 'cheap labor' alternative, more likely Taiwan if anything, but would Bianchi have routed Italian Deda tubing all the way to Asia to cut the labor cost corner?...I cannot say. Still it was a documented thing that "made in" was being loosely interpreted to be more like "final finish and assembly in" in some cases and some countries (with "creative legal teams').
In any case: does this have a BSC/ISO threaded BB shell? It should be a super quick investigation: the DS will have left-handed threads if BSC/ISO and the shell width 'should be' 68mm rather than 70mm
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Originally Posted by John E
Thanks for posting. It is somewhat newer than mine, given the decals, the vertical dropouts, and the unicrown fork.
Thanks for the info! I didn't realize the unicrown was an identifier for year, i'll have to look more closely. I def. prefer a lugged/segmented fork, now that I know they're around, I might actually look out for one that would be an easy swap.
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Originally Posted by dinosnores
Yeah, the cable routing threw me, as most of the ones i've been able to find with these decals also have the internal routing (which I actually prefer, tbh).

Which threading was yours? I'm trying to find a BB fairly quickly, but don't know how to figure out if it's italian or english.
Mine was built in late 1981, probably as a 1982 model. It has Italian BB threading, with that characteristic weird-to-me metric (36mm diameter) / English (24 TPI) hybrid.

Tip: never throw away small parts and fittings. My current Bianchi came with an aluminum BB lockring which started to chip and fail. Fortunately, I had saved the steel lockring from my lowly 1962 Bianchi Corsa, the frame of which I had scrapped after it failed.
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Originally Posted by unworthy1
Dunno if I would doubt the "made in Italy" sticker but in '95 I don't think Japan would have been the 'cheap labor' alternative, more likely Taiwan if anything, but would Bianchi have routed Italian Deda tubing all the way to Asia to cut the labor cost corner?...I cannot say. Still it was a documented thing that "made in" was being loosely interpreted to be more like "final finish and assembly in" in some cases and some countries (with "creative legal teams').
In any case: does this have a BSC/ISO threaded BB shell? It should be a super quick investigation: the DS will have left-handed threads if BSC/ISO and the shell width 'should be' 68mm rather than 70mm
Thanks!! Just measured, and my BB shell is 70mm, guessing that means it's English! Now I can get that ordered and start looking for a groupset.

I'm not super hung up on where it was made, but agree with your logic regarding the shipping/labor costs.
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Originally Posted by dinosnores
Thanks!! Just measured, and my BB shell is 70mm, guessing that means it's ITALIAN! Now I can get that ordered and start looking for a groupset.

I'm not super hung up on where it was made, but agree with your logic regarding the shipping/labor costs.
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measure twice, but also check if the DS is righthand threading by trying any (either) Italian or Brit/ISO cup: it either "goes" or "no-goes" and there's your answer. People often mis-measure the width of a given shell, 2mm is within the "fudge" tolerance.
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Originally Posted by unworthy1
measure twice, but also check if the DS is righthand threading by trying any (either) Italian or Brit/ISO cup: it either "goes" or "no-goes" and there's your answer. People often mis-measure the width of a given shell, 2mm is within the "fudge" tolerance.
It's so obvious I forgot but Bianchigirll is the one who will have all the info there is on your frame!
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