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Old 06-14-22, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by GhostRider62
I cross chain all the time and have no wear issues. The only time I look back to see what cog I am in? On a steep hill when I push the button and nothing happens
For me the process is…

Shift
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Grind it out

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Old 06-14-22, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Polaris OBark
SRAM officially endorses cross-chaining. Shimano doesn't, but their drivetrains appear to tolerate it, at least in my experience. Recent iterations of Di2 prevent you from doing it.

SRAM has been the main proponent of 1X gearing (probably because they can't seem to make a functional front derailleur). I got curious about this, because the same arguments that apply to cross-chaining should apply to 1X, at least for the lowest gear, so I checked their website, and found that out, so at least they get points for consistency.
So does Shimano. All of the mechanical drivetrains are fine with big/big, but they will rub small/small and 1-2 cogs but those gear ratios are stupid and Shimano warns about likely rub. Di2 allows big/big and blocks out the smallest cogs for small/small. SRAM front derailleurs work just fine if they're set up correctly. I don't have any problems with them and when correctly adjusted are great. I have one on a bike I own.

Originally Posted by tyrion
Trim in this context refers to the front derailleur - there will be 3 or 4 click stops on the FD to deal with the changing chain angle when you shift the RD.
Semantics I know but there are no clicks in the front derailleur, they're in the shifter.
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Old 06-14-22, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by cxwrench
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Semantics i know but there are no clicks in the front derailleur, they're in the shifter.
brifter brifter brifter!
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Old 06-14-22, 04:16 PM
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During my time selling bikes I warned thousands of riders to avoid cross-chaining, especially on bikes with triples. I still have the same opinion on cross-chaining with a triple, however my opinion on cross-chaining a double has done a 180. A guy I regularly ride with and do service on his bike has been cross-chaining his 11 speed Sram Red group since new many years ago. He is a spinner and rarely jams hard on the bike. He averages about 4000 miles from a chain and cassette. I change the chain at 75% wear along with the cassette. The chain rings have never been replaced.
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Originally Posted by TiHabanero
I change the chain at 75% wear along with the cassette. The chain rings have never been replaced.
I know what you meant to write but it was sure a jolt to read this the first time.

As to the severity of cross channing, one big factor is chainstay length. Bikes with long chainstays like touring and gravel bikes, reduce the chain angle and make cross chaining less harmful and noisy. Racing frames with very short chainstays are less tolerant of it.
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Old 06-14-22, 07:14 PM
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Cross-chaining: worse than wearing white after Labor Day, but not as bad as clubbing seal pups. Actually with modern chains it’s probably not so bad.

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Old 06-15-22, 08:27 AM
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I ride the big/big all the time and have been for as long as I can remember. I can trim the FD so that it doesn't rub in any gear too. I've had no issues, wear seems to be normal. I keep everything lubed and adjusted too and still have the original Campy chainrings in the front and change cassettes every now and then but they won't be getting changed again anytime soon. At 67 I'm finding it ever harder to ride the way I did, with fewer miles. On top of that my knees are giving me problems. As for the small/small combo, since I stay mostly in the big ring since it is mostly flat here when I do use the small front I'm usually shifting back to the big as soon as I'm done with whatever hill needed it. I've always found the small/small combo to be a strange feeling anyway.
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Old 06-15-22, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by ofajen
Cross-chaining: worse than wearing white after Labor Day, but not as bad as clubbing seal pups. Actually with modern chains it’s probably not so bad.
To me it's just dumb.
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Old 06-15-22, 05:44 PM
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I have Campy 9 & 10 speeds on all my bikes. I stay on the small chainring 99% of the time and I'm always cross-chaining. No ill effects.
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