non-fixie 

Yes, I noticed the picture of what looks like a steel bike, but as Fanini did work with Alan a lot, I thought I'd post the ad anyway.

BTW, I found it on a rather lovely Italian website with lots of eighties Italian advertisements, looking for Daccordi clues. Definitely worth a look, if you're into Italian bikes.

fabiofarelli

Ah, I already could't believe you did not see that. Thnx for the tip.

unworthy1

BAM, there it is! I can cross one off my "bucket list", now! And this wasn't even the color of the one I saw years ago, so there had to be at least 2 of these. Thanks for posting fabiofarelli ! and...Shimano 105 with Biopace? How weird is that!?

billytwosheds 

Bumping this thread because I have eyes on a ALAN Guerciotti and hope this will bring me luck.

fabiofarelli

fabiofarelli

Early German brands on Alan.

non-fixie 

There is a picture of a Rowona in my "favorite builds" folder. I really dig the Campagnolo-CLB combination.

However, the choice of a Wittkop saddle - while looking great - is a bit of a conundrum. I have one of those, and at 780 grams it is heavy.

unworthy1

Here's one i never saw before, appears to be a Battestini (or is it a Rattistini ?) that showed up in a Facebook Marketplace ad (2/05/2023) for a "Campagnolo bicycle" that was tagged by one of our sharp-eyed sleuths and added to the "looking for one of these on CL/eBay?" thread...I can only add screengrab images cause it sold.

Andy Antipas 

1985 Alan Record badged as Battestini. The bike shop still has a facebook page and I sent them a message and got no response.


As renovated with some new decals.

Frame as purchased. Decals in poor shape.

fabiofarelli

The frame was a first generation Alan from 1972/1973.

unworthy1

Thanks to both of you ^ Andy_Antipas and fabiofarelli for filling in these gaps and adding yet another name to "the List".
So we got the correct spelling of what seems to be a shop's housebrand for ALAN:
Battistini
and that they apparently rebadged them from the early 1970s until at least 1985!
Quite a run!

Bianchigirll 

Perhaps this covered elsewhere in the forums but, Did Alan and Vitus actually make different frames for different companies, different geometry, tubing gauge, etc or were they all the same frame?

fabiofarelli

Alan and Vitus have complete different frames, the difference is easy to see. A Italian builder and a French builder too. Alan is screwed and glued, Vitus is glued. Alan was the first (1972) and some years later (1979?) Vitus came with their bonded frame. Or do I misunderstand the question?

fabiofarelli

What's similar, the 25mm seatpost. At least most of the time.

Bianchigirll 

Yes I know they are different companies. The question is was a Alan badge Basso the same as a Alan Badge Smitty as a frame badge Alan or did they actually make contract frame to a customer’s specifications?

fabiofarelli

In case you mean if they made different frames for other brands, no. Most of the time it was just a sticker or/and paint. There are a few exceptions, Alan made the Dual and Carbitubo in collabaration with Colnago. There was a prototype for Gios. Guerciotti and Fanini had sometimes their brand engra ved on the fork crown. As you see, I talk for Alan, Vitus is not my knowledge.

Bianchigirll 

Thanks, yes that was the quest.

fabiofarelli

This was (part of) a prototype for Gios



It did not get it to production.

unworthy1

not surprising: did the world need an ALAN with the super-short stays of a Gios Compact?
I don't think so, IMO the one cancels out the others benefits.

fabiofarelli

The response of Marco Gios:
"OH yes I know that pictures. That was a prototype made by Alan for us , maybe they made two... Never gets to production because was not so good for our work, we were making frames and that was obviously not made by us... I think is beginning of the 90 because the lite decals was on another steel model that was introduced that year...and does make sense because in that period we were using Oria tubes that were heavy so an aluminium solution would have been good."..

unworthy1

I realize I have neglected my "duties" as originating this compilation/list in that I never actually made a LIST!

So here's what we have so far, brands are more or less in the order mentioned, where there was mention-only (no pix) I follow the name with (?).
Where there was a specific Carbonio model with that brand I follow the name with (CF).

There were a few decals (not frames) displayed so despite them being pix of decals I follow them with (?) but happy to edit any that eventually show up as frames or complete bikes.

And to edit for any mistakes, typos, omissions...

1. Fanini (CF and ALU)
2. Nishiki (CF)
3. Gitane
4. Carlos
5. Guerciotti
6. Colnago (Duall-Ergal plus standard Record models)
7. Azzuri
8. Bontekoe
9. Carrera (CF, + some with blue, or red, tint clearcoat)
10. Performance (CF Hybrid?)
11. Basso (?)
12. Peugeot Model 1000 (CF)
13. Tommaso
14. Toray (?) (Torayca, Japan?)
15. Olmo (CF)
16. Cosmos
17. A. Zoli (Azoli?)
18. Donnay (CF)
19. Arnaldo Prioli (?)
20. CO Bianchi (?)
21. Calzoni Merone (?)
22. J.G. Malidin (?)
23. SELECT (?)
24. Gerber
25. Da Vinci
26. Battistini
27. Lazzaretti
28. Rowona (AKA Rolf Wolfshohl)
29. Thei Sprint
30. Frera
31. CIOCC
32. Waja
33. Rokado (?)
34. Gios
35. Gamba
36. Fangio
37. Plum Vainqueur
38. RIH (Vienna, Austria)
39. Pinto (Mel Pinto Special)
40. JLG
41. Cora
42. G. Fatato
43. Vassallo
44. EUROCYCLES (Delsarte)
45. Rampon
46. GB / DANNER
47. Famina
48. Effetibi
49. Theo Intra
50. Walter Uccheddu
51. Kivada (CF, OS, and MTB)
52. Cycles Record (maybe just branded with a "generic" aftermarket decal set)
53. XEGOS (24" wheels)
54. Coppi
55. Torpado (and a Team Sponsor: Magniflex/Torpado rode ALAN bikes)
56. Stevens (Mountain Bike)

Trakhak

That reminds me that the shop I worked for in the 1980s sold a couple of Alan aluminum framesets (I think they were Alan frames, anyway; maybe Vitus, though) built for 24" tubulars. The chainstays were designed to be short enough to keep the rear wheel tucked in close to the seat tube, and the top tube was cut down, too, so the wheelbase was incredibly short. As you might imagine, the handling took some getting used to, from what the purchasers told us.

Lattz

GAMBA



there were also CF models, even CF MTB's under the GAMBA name, but I don't know if it was a shop or team.

Also saw above Fanini, they also sold ALU ones, not only CF.

I have a French Cycles Europe branded frame, will shoot a pic when I get around the back side of cellar for the record.

fabiofarelli

This flyer is from 1992 but there were smaller wheels and 'children' frames much earlier, that's for sure.

Trakhak

Yes, the two frames the shop sold were definitely built for children.