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Old 01-23-16, 06:01 AM
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LCF is the biggest obstacle and hindrance to career advancement.
Hardly. Common sense and education and work ethic are much bigger obstacles. LCF need not be much of a factor in many fields of work like my own (software development). In my work people are looking for those with the ability to take on challenging projects and get the work done at a high level of quality and success within a reasonable time-frame. This makes aspects of my personal life like LCF become invisible to my employer.
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Old 01-24-16, 03:41 AM
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I haven't posted here in years, so hi to everyone.

Anyway, I do my job from home. I teach classical piano and music theory, and for extra income I have an online job that I do here and there on my computer.
I remember some interesting posts from you. Welcome back!
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LCF is the biggest obstacle and hindrance to career advancement.
Trolling.
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Old 01-24-16, 04:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Walter S View Post
Hardly. Common sense and education and work ethic are much bigger obstacles. LCF need not be much of a factor in many fields of work like my own (software development). In my work people are looking for those with the ability to take on challenging projects and get the work done at a high level of quality and success within a reasonable time-frame. This makes aspects of my personal life like LCF become invisible to my employer.
I assume you mean a lack of common sense, education and work ethic are bigger obstacles. I couldn't agree more.
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Old 01-24-16, 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Walter S View Post
Hardly. Common sense and education and work ethic are much bigger obstacles. LCF need not be much of a factor in many fields of work like my own (software development). In my work people are looking for those with the ability to take on challenging projects and get the work done at a high level of quality and success within a reasonable time-frame. This makes aspects of my personal life like LCF become invisible to my employer.
And how is somebody supposed to prove and demonstrate their common sense, education, experience and work ethic to an employer if that person has no transportation to get to an interview and then get to their job daily on time ??... This whole idea that everybody has a lot of well paying jobs waiting for them all within a walking distance of their home is all false, it's a fantasy only believed by a small group of LCF posters on this forum...Majority of LCF'ers on this forum are absolutely clueless about the difficulties and challenges that a car-free person faces when looking for career advancement opportunities.
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Old 01-24-16, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by wolfchild View Post
Majority of LCF'ers on this forum are absolutely clueless about the difficulties and challenges that a car-free person faces when looking for career advancement opportunities.
Generalize much?
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Old 01-24-16, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by wolfchild View Post
And how is somebody supposed to prove and demonstrate their common sense, education, experience and work ethic to an employer if that person has no transportation to get to an interview and then get to their job daily on time ??... This whole idea that everybody has a lot of well paying jobs waiting for them all within a walking distance of their home is all false, it's a fantasy only believed by a small group of LCF posters on this forum...Majority of LCF'ers on this forum are absolutely clueless about the difficulties and challenges that a car-free person faces when looking for career advancement opportunities.
It depends what type of job you're looking for. My son is a recent software grad and takes the bus to work and walks home (8km). He lives in the city now but also worked downtown when he was living at home during summers by taking the bus. He's always had a car or access to one but finds it more convenient to use public transportation.
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Old 01-24-16, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by gregf83 View Post
He's always had a car or access to one but finds it more convenient to use public transportation.
Isn't that the reason most people use public transportation, whether they are car free or not, it's considered better by the traveler (more convenient, economical, timely or whatever) than the available alternatives for that specific trip?
Is commuting to work or school by public transportation when it is more convenient than using the family car now the new definition of "car free living"?
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And how is somebody supposed to prove and demonstrate their common sense, education, experience and work ethic to an employer if that person has no transportation to get to an interview and then get to their job daily on time ??... This whole idea that everybody has a lot of well paying jobs waiting for them all within a walking distance of their home is all false, it's a fantasy only believed by a small group of LCF posters on this forum...Majority of LCF'ers on this forum are absolutely clueless about the difficulties and challenges that a car-free person faces when looking for career advancement opportunities.
Who says you need a job within walking distance to live carfree? I'm carfree and my employment is a 40 mile RT bicycle commute. I have mass transit options too. You don't need a car to get to work reliably and on time. In fact a car is a disadvantage if you want a consistent commute time.
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Old 01-24-16, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Walter S View Post
Who says you need a job within walking distance to live carfree? I'm carfree and my employment is a 40 mile RT bicycle commute. I have mass transit options too. You don't need a car to get to work reliably and on time. In fact a car is a disadvantage if you want a consistent commute time.
If I had a 40 mile RT commute I would definitely be driving and I would also try moving closer to work if possible... No way I would be wasting 3-4 hours a day with a bus/bike commute. The problem with buses is that there are too many transfers and too much waiting involved in between... For me anything longer then 22 miles RT and I would be getting a vehicle. If my commute changed and biking was taking too long then I would be buy a vehicle, I am not a big fan of buses.
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Old 01-24-16, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Walter S View Post
Who says you need a job within walking distance to live carfree? I'm carfree and my employment is a 40 mile RT bicycle commute. I have mass transit options too. You don't need a car to get to work reliably and on time. In fact a car is a disadvantage if you want a consistent commute time.
40 miles RT is a stretch under many if not most circumstances. I had a 42 mile RT commute I did for a while using public transportation. Not working set hours, my commute was 3 to 5 hours a day depending on time of day, and day of the week. That's not practical, or realistic for most people.
I didn't consider cycling an option as I was working as a mover at that time.
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Yeah, for me, 15 km round trip is comfortable for a commute ... I could probably push it to 20 km round trip. My commute in Winnipeg was 13.6 km round trip and that was lovely. I had the option of doing just that amount or I could go longer if I wanted. I could also ride different routes if I felt so inclined.

But anything over about 20 km round trip would only be an occasional thing for me for a number of reasons including:

-- I have other stuff I want to do with my day.

-- I ride longer distances on the weekends and don't want to wear myself out during the week.
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Why do they care about your credit history? What does that have to do with whether or not you'd be a good employee?
You're right and employers will ask you to sign a document during the interview to access your credit history. If you fail to sign the document, they will never hire you! It's sad but I suspect you would have to change names and social security number several times to confuse the computers.
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Originally Posted by Ekdog View Post
Why do they care about your credit history? What does that have to do with whether or not you'd be a good employee?
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You're right and employers will ask you to sign a document during the interview to access your credit history. If you fail to sign the document, they will never hire you! It's sad but I suspect you would have to change names and social security number several times to confuse the computers.
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One exception: Most companies will run a full credit report on any candidate who would have access to the company’s finances. “For candidates that would have financial oversight responsibilities, credit checks are even more important,” Connell said. A consistent pattern of living beyond your means and/or a high debt ratio could be a red flag to recruiters and employers that you’re not the right fit."
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You're right and employers will ask you to sign a document during the interview to access your credit history. If you fail to sign the document, they will never hire you! It's sad but I suspect you would have to change names and social security number several times to confuse the computers.
Really?

Is this if you apply for work at a specific company ... like maybe a bank or something?

I have never had an employer check my credit history. Never. And I've worked in two countries. I've even been employed by the government. None of my employers have cared about my credit history.
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... if that person has no transportation to get to an interview and then get to their job daily on time ??...
You seem to be thinking that having no car is the same as having no transportation. That's just silly! We were talking about being carfree, not about being too damned stupid to travel by bike, transit, or whatever.
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You're right and employers will ask you to sign a document during the interview to access your credit history. If you fail to sign the document, they will never hire you! It's sad but I suspect you would have to change names and social security number several times to confuse the computers.
What planet are your from ??...I never ever had any employer ask me about my credit history. The only places which check my credit history are banks when applying for a loan, mortage, or credit card. Also many landlords check the persons credit history before allowing them to rent. Employers never do that...DL is what many employers require.
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What planet are your from ??...I never ever had any employer ask me about my credit history. The only places which check my credit history are banks when applying for a loan, mortage, or credit card. Also many landlords check the persons credit history before allowing them to rent. Employers never do that...DL is what many employers require.
Has it not occurred to you that he lives in another country and that the laws and customs might be different there?
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Has it not occurred to you that he lives in another country and that the laws and customs might be different there?
Canadian background check.

Excuse me, are you a nice, dependable person?
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I guess I have always approached this differently. I don't apply for jobs that I think are too annoying to get to. Whether that means the traffic sucks. Or there is not transit. Or too many transit connections. Or whatever. There have been plenty of jobs I have been referred to or thought about interviewing at where I openly said, this is a bad fit due to the commute.

I have had people ask, and hint around how will you get to work, but no one has actually cared how I got there in a long time. They just wanted to make sure I wouldn't jump due to an annoying commute.

Now my sister doesn't drive and has no license. She has chosen to live in metro areas where transit exists and she lives close to it. She is considering a job with a less convenient transit route. Do able, but not ideal. It is a dream job for her, so it will be interesting to see how she makes her decision.
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There are jobs where you don't need to have a car. I think you should go for it on https://uk.jooble.org/jobs-scaffolding/London and find something worthy. Personally, I found my first job here, I didn't have work experience at all and this is such a rare thing and a rare chance to find a job being a student.

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Just apply for the job that you're qualified and go to work. It doesn't matter how you get to work. I haven't owned a car since 2005. People don't get it. You have uber, bicycling, public transportation. If you need get an ebike or a motorscooter. Buying a car is a money pit. Investing the money that you make will make you wealthier than owning a car.
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I have been working from home for some 5 years now. It is wonderful not to have to commute, for the 6 years before I became self employed I used public transportation. Tokyo has a very efficient public transportation system, but it is always very busy, and usually standing room only. Sometimes there isn't room to stand. It is interesting to find yourself yourself being pushed and carried into a train by a crowd of people pressed around you It is more interesting when you look at the train when the doors open, see that the train looks completely full, yet you and hundreds of others still find a way go get pushed in.

I don't miss those days. My commute is 20 or so steps to my home office. I do have a car, which I use to escape the city from time to time.
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I personally don't buy into "what I do dictates who I am". I also maintain a strict 5 mile one way rule. Individual results may vary but I personally don't care if I stack boards or fry French fries...I do care if I can't ride to work! In the last 7 years i have bought 5 vehicles...all for the ladies I have had in my life. I truly detest riding in a car, on a bus, etc. My bike is my solace. A true extension of myself. Sounds fanatical I know...but I am! I love to pedal. Love the adversity. I live in the pacific northwest. Spokane for ever, now Idaho. I ride 365. Rain, shine, blizzard, heatwave. I don't care as long as I sit saddle.
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I turn up at job interviews with my folded Brompton and walk right in with it.
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