derail3

I have a Bike Friday NWT with a single leg kick stand. It works ok with lightly loaded rear Panniers. But as soon as I put front Panniers on it falls over most of the time.

Does anyone have experience using a double legged kick stand with a fully loaded four Pannier setup? If it is a good experience what brand and model was it.

MarcusT

I have this:

It weighs a lot, but can hold up 100 kg. Just make sure it is compatible.

Grishnak

Pletscher folding stand. Folds a bit neater.

Tourist in MSN

With a Bike Friday, I would have no clue what would work.

Click stand might be your only option, that is a foldable pole that you can use to lean the bike against it.

I do not have a clickstand but I made something similar from a tent pole to use on my folder, it folds up short enough to fit in my handlebar bag. I use an elastic to lock my front wheel from turning.



A better photo of my front "parking brake" with an elastic, below from a different bike, these are pony tail hair elastics.

Prowler 

I also prefer the “clickstand” concept which puts the bracing point well above the loaded bike’s center of gravity. On rough ground (as at camp sites) it is much more confidence inspiring. And it does not crush the chain stays. I also custom made mine which engages the bike’s top tube, above most of the weight.

Pony tail elastics do work well for parking brake function, as do slices of old inner tube. Hair elastics must be quite popular as you can find them all over trails, more plentiful than Gu and protein bar wrappers.

Jeff Neese

I'll just throw this out there. In all my years and miles of touring, I've never stopped somewhere that I didn't have something to lean it up against - a tree, a picnic table, the side of a building, something. Never once. Standing your bike up in the middle of nowhere is for picture-taking purposes only. Do you really need a kickstand?

Tourist in MSN

Yeah, I admit that I wanted to take a photo where there was nothing to lean the bike against.



There were a few poles on the sides of the road to tell the snow plow drivers where the road was, but they were not strong enough to hold up a bike.

pdlamb

Particularly with front panniers, you may just need to hold the bike up until it settles. If you park on ground with a slight slope, or in the wind, the bike will be more stable pointing downhill or downwind. And with a slightly steeper grade (for example, to control rain runoff in a parking lot) the bike will swing itself around, often rolling forward, until the kickstand folds up.

Of course, sometimes with a strong, gusty wind at right angles to the slope of the ground, you won't be able to find a stable position. Just lay the bike down if that happens!

Tourist in MSN

In post number 4 above I showed my "parking brake" where I apply a brake to the front wheel so it won't roll.

I often have to set that "brake" with my single leg kickstand too (Greenfield mounted near rear left dropout), if the ground is not flat and if the front wheel can roll, sometimes the bike rolls so that the rear wheel will roll forward, and when that happens the kickstand can fold upwards so that the bike falls over.

Some people on this forum have also used velcro or some other strap to strap the front wheel to the downtube to prevent a bike from rolling.