The Long Fuse
#1
I eat carbide.
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Elgin, IL
Posts: 21,627
Bikes: Lots. Van Dessel and Squid Dealer
Mentioned: 25 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1325 Post(s)
Liked 1,306 Times
in
560 Posts
The Long Fuse
My, and hopefully our, buddy Mike Friedman made it on to this American Life this last weekend. If you haven't listened- you should. It's available to listen to for this week on their website : https://www.thisamericanlife.org/
It's act 3.
It's act 3.
__________________
PSIMET Wheels, PSIMET Racing, PSIMET Neutral Race Support, and 11 Jackson Coffee
Podcast - YouTube Channel
Video about PSIMET Wheels
Podcast - YouTube Channel
Video about PSIMET Wheels
#2
fuggitivo solitario
i'd have to restrain my urge to punch Ira Glass before getting to act 3 though
lemme guess, the story is about the deal he made to win amateur Nats?
lemme guess, the story is about the deal he made to win amateur Nats?
#3
I eat carbide.
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Elgin, IL
Posts: 21,627
Bikes: Lots. Van Dessel and Squid Dealer
Mentioned: 25 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1325 Post(s)
Liked 1,306 Times
in
560 Posts
yeah. It's well done and not super cringe-y as it usually is when mainstream people try to explain bicycle races. On the page plug in I think you can fast forward to act 3.
__________________
PSIMET Wheels, PSIMET Racing, PSIMET Neutral Race Support, and 11 Jackson Coffee
Podcast - YouTube Channel
Video about PSIMET Wheels
Podcast - YouTube Channel
Video about PSIMET Wheels
#5
Newbie racer
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 3,406
Bikes: Propel, red is faster
Mentioned: 34 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1575 Post(s)
Liked 1,568 Times
in
973 Posts
Someone on a local bike Google group posted this up. I listened.
I'm just a recreational racer guy. All I know is that I have read a few "tell all" or "retirement" books from pro cyclists and have heard about such "deals".
Usually though, it isn't for a national champs jersey. Usually it is for a stage win in a big race where a win in a stage could make a guy's career or year and the other guy is so far ahead that losing to him by 1 second won't matter.
In this case, if I was the guy that took the deal for a win I'd have given it a million % anyway for that last corner and to the line. I wouldn't have relied on the deal at all. I still would have given it the gas. Also, I would have probably made the other guy pull longer or skipped a turn myself when it became apparent you're not getting caught. Or choose to drop the guy within a mile or two.
Again, that's rec racer nonsense opinion.......but I'd never rely on that.
Even locally a guy I ride with just the two of us sometimes, we go chase KOMs. We'll swap work for it and let the better body type take it (hill or flat). Even he one day stretched his last pull too long then tried to sprint for it! Lol. I came around and got it instead.
That's just some bums having some juvenile Strava fun. So I can imagine if national champ is on the line what could happen.
I'm just a recreational racer guy. All I know is that I have read a few "tell all" or "retirement" books from pro cyclists and have heard about such "deals".
Usually though, it isn't for a national champs jersey. Usually it is for a stage win in a big race where a win in a stage could make a guy's career or year and the other guy is so far ahead that losing to him by 1 second won't matter.
In this case, if I was the guy that took the deal for a win I'd have given it a million % anyway for that last corner and to the line. I wouldn't have relied on the deal at all. I still would have given it the gas. Also, I would have probably made the other guy pull longer or skipped a turn myself when it became apparent you're not getting caught. Or choose to drop the guy within a mile or two.
Again, that's rec racer nonsense opinion.......but I'd never rely on that.
Even locally a guy I ride with just the two of us sometimes, we go chase KOMs. We'll swap work for it and let the better body type take it (hill or flat). Even he one day stretched his last pull too long then tried to sprint for it! Lol. I came around and got it instead.
That's just some bums having some juvenile Strava fun. So I can imagine if national champ is on the line what could happen.
#6
Cat 2
I haven't listened to it yet, but in Belgian kermesse racing it's common place for teams to give riders money to bribe out wins.
#8
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Sacramento, California, USA
Posts: 40,865
Bikes: Specialized Tarmac, Canyon Exceed, Specialized Transition, Ellsworth Roots, Ridley Excalibur
Mentioned: 68 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2952 Post(s)
Liked 3,106 Times
in
1,417 Posts
Yeah, that was great.
#9
No matches
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Eastern PA
Posts: 11,647
Bikes: two wheeled ones
Mentioned: 15 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1398 Post(s)
Liked 444 Times
in
250 Posts
I listen to every episode anyway, but that actually was mostly well explained. Little dumbed down in places, but an interesting story.
#10
commu*ist spy
according to jordan peterson, in his decades of clinical practice, nobody ever gets away with anything. I think this is a nice illustration of that.
the decision clearly haunted mike all these years, and I wonder if it was a contributing factor to his decline later in life?
the decision clearly haunted mike all these years, and I wonder if it was a contributing factor to his decline later in life?
#11
My idea of fun
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Gainesville, FL
Posts: 9,920
Bikes: '06 Litespeed Tuscany, '02 Kona Lavadome, '07 Giant TCR Advanced, '07 Karate Monkey
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 41 Post(s)
Liked 59 Times
in
36 Posts
nice piece, I enjoyed it too. Current link for the archive is https://www.thisamericanlife.org/668/the-long-fuse
#12
Senior Member
according to jordan peterson, in his decades of clinical practice, nobody ever gets away with anything. I think this is a nice illustration of that.
the decision clearly haunted mike all these years, and I wonder if it was a contributing factor to his decline later in life?
the decision clearly haunted mike all these years, and I wonder if it was a contributing factor to his decline later in life?
#13
commu*ist spy