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Old 06-03-23, 10:02 AM
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Is the GP 5000 AS TR "high performance" or "puncture resistant"?

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I use the SILCA tire pressure calculator to figure out what the recommended tire piressure is for me. Under the "Tire Type" seciton, two of the choice are:
  • High performance tubeless/latex tube
  • Puncture resistant tubeless/latex tube
I'm pretty sure the Continental GP 5000 AS TR is one of these two, but which one? It is the all-season version of the GP 5000 S TR and includes features for better puncture protection, but does that make the tire "puncutre resistant" rather than "high performance"?

I am asking because the recommended pressures between the two choices are about 5-6 PSI apart.

Any insight would be appreciated.
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I would lean towards high performance. When I see puncture resistance I think specifically about Gatorskins.
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I would lean towards high performance. When I see puncture resistance I think specifically about Gatorskins.
Thank you for the quick response. That makes sense.
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I agree, I would treat it as a high performance tyre. But you could always split the difference. The recommended pressures are intended only as a starting point anyway.
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5000 miles on my tubeless GP5000s with zero punctures. Total of 11,000 on two sets with one puncture and it was the sidewall.
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Originally Posted by rsbob
5000 miles on my tubeless GP5000s with zero punctures. Total of 11,000 on two sets with one puncture and it was the sidewall.
Thanks! That sounds promising, especially because your tires are most likely GP 5000 S TR rather than the AS TR, which is supposed to provide even better puncture protection.
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6 psi is really not much of a difference. Neither one is going to get you in trouble. I'd try the higher simply because letting a little air out mid-ride is so easy. Then ride it. Seem a little too hard? Bleed a touch off and try it. (Do have a means of re-inflating in case you let to much out. A another reason I am such a fan of full frame pumps like the Zephal HPX. Sadly the means to mount them easily on modern bikes has gone the way of the dinosaurs.)
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Originally Posted by daihard
Thanks! That sounds promising, especially because your tires are most likely GP 5000 S TR rather than the AS TR, which is supposed to provide even better puncture protection.
Actually you are almost quite correct I own 2 sets of S TRs - one had the flat, and my latest tubeless set is the AS TR with zero issues - knock on wood.
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Conti 5000 is the gatorskin of high end tires. IMHO
Use the pressure that feels best, for me on 5000s that is about 10psi below my Vittoria's and 15psi below my Veloflex.
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Originally Posted by Wildwood
Conti 5000 is the gatorskin of high end tires. IMHO
Use the pressure that feels best, for me on 5000s that is about 10psi below my Vittoria's and 15psi below my Veloflex.
I’m pretty happy with the ride on the latest 30 mm 5000S TR. I did a fast century event on them today on some pretty rough roads and they were great. Some guys were having a hard time. But I haven’t tried Veloflex or Vittoria for a very long time. My only recent comparison is with Pirelli P Zero Race TR and they felt similar to the Contis, but were more prone to cuts.
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Originally Posted by 79pmooney
6 psi is really not much of a difference. Neither one is going to get you in trouble. I'd try the higher simply because letting a little air out mid-ride is so easy. Then ride it. Seem a little too hard? Bleed a touch off and try it. (Do have a means of re-inflating in case you let to much out. A another reason I am such a fan of full frame pumps like the Zephal HPX. Sadly the means to mount them easily on modern bikes has gone the way of the dinosaurs.)
No need to bleed off pressure, just ride for a few days and see at which point you like the ride best. Many people can hardly tell the difference in ride due to a 5-6 psi difference.
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Originally Posted by KerryIrons
No need to bleed off pressure, just ride for a few days and see at which point you like the ride best. Many people can hardly tell the difference in ride due to a 5-6 psi difference.
I tend to agree, but it starts to become more significant with wider, low pressure tyres.
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Originally Posted by PeteHski
I’m pretty happy with the ride on the latest 30 mm 5000S TR. I did a fast century event on them today on some pretty rough roads and they were great. Some guys were having a hard time. But I haven’t tried Veloflex or Vittoria for a very long time. My only recent comparison is with Pirelli P Zero Race TR and they felt similar to the Contis, but were more prone to cuts.
Pirelli (box pictured) is much like 5000s (25mm) to me. The Spec Turbo Cotton is super nice. Yes, the wear life is short, not a real concern for me. The best couple of square inches (max) is what I seek for efficiency


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Originally Posted by rsbob
Actually you are almost quite correct I own 2 sets of S TRs - one had the flat, and my latest tubeless set is the AS TR with zero issues - knock on wood.
Ah! Just curious, can you tell the difference (whatever it is) between the S TRs and the AS TRs?
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Originally Posted by daihard
Ah! Just curious, can you tell the difference (whatever it is) between the S TRs and the AS TRs?
Not really. Feels identical.
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Originally Posted by Wildwood
Pirelli (box pictured) is much like 5000s (25mm) to me. The Spec Turbo Cotton is super nice. Yes, the wear life is short, not a real concern for me. The best couple of square inches (max) is what I seek for efficiency


The only reason I tried the 5000S TR was because they came on my new Canyon Endurace last year. But I have been very impressed with their all-round ability. If I was going to try another tyre brand it would probably be Vittoria, but I haven't looked at their tubeless options lately.
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The difference between GP5000 S TR and AS is compound, an extra later of casing on the sidewall., and of course some watts more efficient

Cheap bicycle pressure gages can be inaccurate.
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Originally Posted by GhostRider62
The difference between GP5000 S TR and AS is compound, an extra later of casing on the sidewall., and of course some watts more efficient

Cheap bicycle pressure gages can be inaccurate.
key point here.... gauges can vary wildly in accuracy and consistency. I got a good gauge and found my pump gauge is a bit low so adjust for that

I just fixed all of that by getting a milwaukee 18v inflater and put a silca chuck on it. pop the chuck on, select the pressure, push the button. (and verified accuracy with good gauge)
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Originally Posted by GhostRider62
The difference between GP5000 S TR and AS is compound, an extra later of casing on the sidewall., and of course some watts more efficient

Cheap bicycle pressure gages can be inaccurate.
Originally Posted by squirtdad
key point here.... gauges can vary wildly in accuracy and consistency. I got a good gauge and found my pump gauge is a bit low so adjust for that

I just fixed all of that by getting a milwaukee 18v inflater and put a silca chuck on it. pop the chuck on, select the pressure, push the button. (and verified accuracy with good gauge)
That's good to know. Thank you for the helpfiul insight.

I just checked out the Milwaukee 18v Inflator. Unfortunately, it's out of my budget. I will make do with my Topeak SmartGauge.
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