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Old 05-15-23, 02:31 AM
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Originally Posted by seypat
What I'd like to know is how much better or worse is one $400-$600 single speed track bike compared to other $400-$600 single speed track bikes?
it’s gotta be like the cheap lighters, 1 in 5 just works way better than the others.
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz
.....................I have a single speed and the mechanical disk brakes are such a headache that I won’t even ride it anymore....................
Why not try ---

https://bikepacking.com/gear/yokozun...brakes-review/ ----- The Yokozuna Ultimo is a hybrid brake for drop-bar bikes that uses standard metal cables to engage a fully contained hydraulic caliper.
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz
I think you’d agree that $600-650 for a feather is steep, and that the inadequacies could be well masked by good maintenance and won’t expose themselves until the bike is pushed hard and actually tested. Not moseying around for 15 minutes and climbing a hill then calling it good.

40 miles shouldn’t do any appreciable damage to the bike, if it does it was faulty. It’s a single speed... Also I’d shout out the bike shop and the Fuji brand to anyone asking about the bike on the ride.

I have a single speed and the mechanical disk brakes are such a headache that I won’t even ride it anymore. I’m not going to go down that road again with a trash single speed. Is a feather the same thing as a kilo tt or is it worse?
What, dare I ask, do you think is fair? Realizing that what you think is fair does not put any obligation on the seller. And given your thoughts here about your "trash single speed", do you expect a good bike for the price of "trash"?

Also, it's not about "damaging" the bike, it's about wear and dirt. A bike ridden for a few hours won't look new.
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Do you test a computer at Best Buy for 2 hours before buying it? Do you test drive a car for 2 hours before buying it? You probably don't test drive it at all (you try a demo or another one in stock and you end up buying an identical one that you never drove).

The only bike I test-drove in my entire life was my previous bike that was purchased used - the seller let me take it out for a quick spin. The other ones, I bought, I rode.
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Formula for a Larry thread …

Larry: Would doing X when riding be appropriate?

Everybody: No, it would not be appropriate.

Larry: Here are 54 lame reasons why I’m going to do it anyway.
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe
Formula for a Larry thread …

Larry: Would doing X when riding be appropriate?

Everybody: No, it would not be appropriate.

Larry: Here are 54 lame reasons why I’m going to do it anyway.
I find it amusing that anyone offers input to Larry, since he has never taken any reasonable advice from this forum. People just seem to love a pointless challenge.
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Old 05-15-23, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz
I think you’d agree that $600-650 for a feather is steep, and that the inadequacies could be well masked by good maintenance and won’t expose themselves until the bike is pushed hard and actually tested. Not moseying around for 15 minutes and climbing a hill then calling it good.

40 miles shouldn’t do any appreciable damage to the bike, if it does it was faulty. It’s a single speed... Also I’d shout out the bike shop and the Fuji brand to anyone asking about the bike on the ride.

I have a single speed and the mechanical disk brakes are such a headache that I won’t even ride it anymore. I’m not going to go down that road again with a trash single speed. Is a feather the same thing as a kilo tt or is it worse?
No I am not really agreeing with you. I am saying yes the Feather is a bit over priced for what it is (and yes maybe we share textually a similar belief) but I am not saying that one needs to steal the bike to ride it around with some group ride. If you didn't like it in the short test ride you won't like it and if you did like it then go for it. If you don't understand how bicycles work enough to test ride it and understand it then you certainly wouldn't understand the dynamics of a group ride and those people on that group ride unless a ride for beginners and should avoid them.

40 miles is doing wear and tear on a bike and someone who is not good at riding and trying to keep up with a group ride is going to do damage and especially since you are literally riding it like you stole it. Some shops have rental programs for a situation that one might get in where they wish to ride in a group ride.

A novice rider who is not capable of riding with a group should not do so until they are ready to be careful, cautious and respectful of all the rules both written and unspoken and all of the people riding in that group. A group ride can be a lot of fun but it can also be dangerous with a novice rider trying to play with the big kids riding with broken equipment or equipment not suited to the ride or just intentionally being dangerous as the OP would do.
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Originally Posted by Koyote
I find it amusing that anyone offers input to Larry, since he has never taken any reasonable advice from this forum. People just seem to love a pointless challenge.
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Old 05-15-23, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Koyote
I find it amusing that anyone offers input to Larry, since he has never taken any reasonable advice from this forum. People just seem to love a pointless challenge.
I've been teaching my dog calculus, but I wanted to move onto something more challenging.

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Old 05-15-23, 11:50 AM
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Is $600 steep for a bike that lists for $700? Hey, maybe you can get them to drop the price after thrashing it through a Spectrum ride by saying it's now used!

BTW, "relocate the levers" would really mean "remove the levers; unwrap the bars if the bike is built up; put on different levers; run new housing since the old housing won't reach; run new cables because the old cables are too short; adjust the brakes"

Then you decide you don't like it after thrashing it for 2 hours, and they have to undo all of that, or try to sell it to somebody else, set up differently from the as-new spec.

Just the changeover is a good 30+ minutes of work, plus $30 and up for levers, probably another $10-20 for the cables and housing.

All for the possibility that you MIGHT buy it, for $100 off MSRP? Ridden by a guy who's infamous on BF for crashing?
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe
I've been teaching my dog calculus, and I wanted to move onto something more challenging.
“Don't try and teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of your time, and it annoys the pig.”
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Originally Posted by genejockey
“Don't try and teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of your time, and it annoys the pig.”
I've found that pigs, like Larry, like the attention.
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They shout horses, don’t they?
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
They shout horses, don’t they?
HORSES!!!

Yeh, they do sometimes.
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Originally Posted by veganbikes
A novice rider who is not capable of riding with a group
used to ride for a living, am a courier by trade. I’m a trained professional bro.
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Should I just buy (online) a mercier kilo TT or a Wabi instead?

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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz
used to ride for a living, am a courier by trade. I’m a trained professional bro.
Couriers do group rides? Who knew?
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz
used to ride for a living, am a courier by trade. I’m a trained professional bro.
Wow, I didn't know that having a paper route and deliverling them by bicycle made me a professional cyclist. Need to add this to my resume...
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A professional urban* cyclist
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz
used to ride for a living, am a courier by trade. I’m a trained professional bro.
Not your "bro" from everything you post here I would certainly call you a novice rider or at least a novice at riding in a group. A courier (which I had a co-worker who claimed that because he did a few deliveries via bike) would not always be someone I want on a group ride unless they could comport themselves in a manner befitting the ride and the group. Also a trained professional? What are you Armstrong at the TDF in 2010 (he crashed 3 times).

Also "professional urban cyclist" is not a title.

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not sure why but.....

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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz
I’m a trained professional bro.
Someone pays you to be their brother?

Hang on. Are you a priest?
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Not your "bro" from everything you post here I would certainly call you a novice rider or at least a novice at riding in a group. A courier (which I had a co-worker who claimed that because he did a few deliveries via bike) would not always be someone I want on a group ride unless they could comport themselves in a manner befitting the ride and the group. Also a trained professional? What are you Armstrong at the TDF in 2010 (he crashed 3 times).

Also "professional urban cyclist" is not a title.
The guy is a troll... He may not even be human.
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