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Another stick.
A curb. (Or convenient rock)
Bits of an old sewage treatment plant.
A really tall stock tank. They must have very tall cows.
A tree...either standing or not.
One of the loneliest state line markers in the US.
A wall with a weird painting.
Even giant pokey cactus
And, if all else fails, the earth is flat enough locally to hold “up” a bike
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As you can see, there are many ways to park your bike, without a kick stand. I have 11 bikes, all get ridden and none have kick stands. But I also know that there are problems.
Many new bikes cannot take the traditional kick stand. On most there is no mounting plate for one. On many there is no room between the chain stay bridge and the BB shell for the top plate nor for the bolt to pass. And many the FD cable passes though that area, leaving no room for the mounting plate nor the bolt. On aluminum and carbon frames there is high risk of tube damage (crush) from clamping a kick stand behind the BB and if you avoid that by not going too tight then the stand will not stay in place, will swing into the wheel or out into the crank arm and, while doing that, will grind off the paint then tube material.
There are kick stands that mount to the rear triangle, near the NDS dropout but: many frame tubes today are too thick for them. Many disk brake caliper mounts interfere with mounting these designs. And they are relatively heavy. Those that do mount ok have the prop arm sticking out the back when raised. Some folks will not like the look. I try to kid customers that it's a great place to hang wet laundry to dry. Most of them smile but some think I'm serious. AFAIK there are very few design choices and they are not widely available. Maybe an indication of minimal customer demand.
Oh, one other reality: if you do mount a kick stand and park the bike on uneven ground, especially with some weight up high, like handlebar or saddle bags, there is a good chance the bike will fall over anyway. You have to pay close attention to how you park the bike with a stand, just like if you didn't have one.
Just go ride the bike for a few months and see how it goes, how easy it is to park your bike without a stand. If you're still not happy then talk to a few LBS people to see what may be acceptable. This is a case where I would discourage you from shopping on line.
Many new bikes cannot take the traditional kick stand. On most there is no mounting plate for one. On many there is no room between the chain stay bridge and the BB shell for the top plate nor for the bolt to pass. And many the FD cable passes though that area, leaving no room for the mounting plate nor the bolt. On aluminum and carbon frames there is high risk of tube damage (crush) from clamping a kick stand behind the BB and if you avoid that by not going too tight then the stand will not stay in place, will swing into the wheel or out into the crank arm and, while doing that, will grind off the paint then tube material.
There are kick stands that mount to the rear triangle, near the NDS dropout but: many frame tubes today are too thick for them. Many disk brake caliper mounts interfere with mounting these designs. And they are relatively heavy. Those that do mount ok have the prop arm sticking out the back when raised. Some folks will not like the look. I try to kid customers that it's a great place to hang wet laundry to dry. Most of them smile but some think I'm serious. AFAIK there are very few design choices and they are not widely available. Maybe an indication of minimal customer demand.
Oh, one other reality: if you do mount a kick stand and park the bike on uneven ground, especially with some weight up high, like handlebar or saddle bags, there is a good chance the bike will fall over anyway. You have to pay close attention to how you park the bike with a stand, just like if you didn't have one.
Just go ride the bike for a few months and see how it goes, how easy it is to park your bike without a stand. If you're still not happy then talk to a few LBS people to see what may be acceptable. This is a case where I would discourage you from shopping on line.
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My lightweight, high tech suggestion is the Click Stand. I use it when I'm touring, but not when doing the regular riding I do. For regular rides I just lean it against something. I'm not affiliated with Click Stand. I just like the product.
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Bikes can’t stand up - they’re two-tired. Kickstands are a decent solution but it might not be more secure than leaning it carefully.
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Hey now!!! The OP evidently wants a doohickey that keeps his ride vertical when stationary. The "lean it against something" and the "buy a heavy metal bolt-on" options were obvious, and I'm disappointed in those who could think of nothing better.
My lightweight, high tech suggestion is the Click Stand. I use it when I'm touring, but not when doing the regular riding I do. For regular rides I just lean it against something. I'm not affiliated with Click Stand. I just like the product.
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My lightweight, high tech suggestion is the Click Stand. I use it when I'm touring, but not when doing the regular riding I do. For regular rides I just lean it against something. I'm not affiliated with Click Stand. I just like the product.
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Just gotta be careful where you lean it. I was on a group ride when someone leaned their bike up against a brick pillar. The wind blew the front wheel and turned it ever so slightly, making the wheel roll and the top tube slide down the bricks as the bike fell. Put a bunch of scrapes & scratches into it.
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I have an old '64 chrome Paramount with no kickstand and I use the preferred method I learned back in the 60's. When I come back from a ride bombing up my driveway I jump off while still rolling and just let it roll into the yard and when it loses momentum and falls over in the yard, that's where it lays until I need to ride it again.
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Hey now!!! The OP evidently wants a doohickey that keeps his ride vertical when stationary. The "lean it against something" and the "buy a heavy metal bolt-on" options were obvious, and I'm disappointed in those who could think of nothing better.
My lightweight, high tech suggestion is the Click Stand. I use it when I'm touring, but not when doing the regular riding I do. For regular rides I just lean it against something. I'm not affiliated with Click Stand. I just like the product.
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My lightweight, high tech suggestion is the Click Stand. I use it when I'm touring, but not when doing the regular riding I do. For regular rides I just lean it against something. I'm not affiliated with Click Stand. I just like the product.
Click-Stand Home Page
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Look, Ma! No kickstand!
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On the highway to hell without a kickstand.
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Geez, dude! You celebrating a football win or something? Dancing nekkid around a bonfire! That’s enough firewood for a week of campfires.
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I tether 2 live hummingbirds to the saddle by a thin thread and one hummingbird to the handlebars. They provide enough lift to not only keep the bike upright, but actually an inch or two above the ground. I also carry some small drones as backup in case the hummingbirds die, but only if I know I'm going to do some prolonged parking.
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I tether 2 live hummingbirds to the saddle by a thin thread and one hummingbird to the handlebars. They provide enough lift to not only keep the bike upright, but actually an inch or two above the ground. I also carry some small drones as backup in case the hummingbirds die, but only if I know I'm going to do some prolonged parking.
I think Indyfabz and I would need condors, however
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Just checked this. No this isn't a joke. I realize I could buy one, but there is a reason they don't come with them so I was curious as to what everyone is using. And I understand if you are on a long ride with no kickstand, then you can lay it down or against a tree or whatever is soft. I mean more like for storage in the garage. This is my fault for phrasing the question poorly. I was never owned a bike without a kickstand...then see other people riding and they have none. So that begged the question what are you holding you prized possession up with. You are damn sure not laying it down in the garage.
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I finally got tired of unstrapping my pack/cooler from the rear rack when I had to lay 'er down. After many years I added a kickstand to my old Trek and it's great. I know, kickstands aren't cool. That's what's cool about them. Suit yourself.
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you're clearly new to this, but no self-respecting cyclists puts a kickstand on a bike, with rare exceptions for instances where it's vital—like a loaded touring/ grocery getter bike. in my garage, I lay it gently on the ground, or hang it from a hook on the wall. I can even lean it against the wall and gravity/ friction keeps it there. I've been riding for decades and never felt the need for a kickstand. for most people, it's a silly bit of clutter on the bike.
I had to ask if this was a joke because people have asked this question in jest as a troll thread just for fun before. it's as silly as asking "why did my bike come with a wheelie bar and streamers on the grips?" or "where am I supposed to mount a baseball card so it makes motorbike noises in my spokes?" to be clear, there are some cases where a kickstand is vital because a bike needs to stand up while being loaded and unloaded with camping gear, groceries, a child seat passenger, etc. otherwise, it just makes you look silly to have superfluous gadgets dangling off your otherwise nice bike.
I had to ask if this was a joke because people have asked this question in jest as a troll thread just for fun before. it's as silly as asking "why did my bike come with a wheelie bar and streamers on the grips?" or "where am I supposed to mount a baseball card so it makes motorbike noises in my spokes?" to be clear, there are some cases where a kickstand is vital because a bike needs to stand up while being loaded and unloaded with camping gear, groceries, a child seat passenger, etc. otherwise, it just makes you look silly to have superfluous gadgets dangling off your otherwise nice bike.
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Just curious, is the Tomasso the OP bought a touring bike, or is he going to tour with it? Otherwise, like you, no one is going to drag that thing around, and set it up every time they stop, wouldn’t even fit in any of my saddlebags. Would be great for photo ops when touring though.
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I tour with an ExtraWheel trailer, and laying the bike down with the trailer attached is problematic. The Click Stand is quick, easy and effective. It does require that you install little bungees on the handlebar, in order to hold the brake levers but they are included.
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Oh, to have a garage.
My more frequently used commuter/tourer leans against a wall in my house. My road bike can be stored on a floor to ceiling mount that accommodates two bikes.
A friend has hooks screwed into the ceiling of her garage to hang her bikes upside down by the wheels.
My more frequently used commuter/tourer leans against a wall in my house. My road bike can be stored on a floor to ceiling mount that accommodates two bikes.
A friend has hooks screwed into the ceiling of her garage to hang her bikes upside down by the wheels.