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Old 07-20-22, 01:35 PM
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Electric bike death in Marin

https://www.sfgate.com/california-pa...k-17317476.php
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Old 07-20-22, 03:24 PM
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A lot of people out trying trails they would never ride without an electric. Not much info.
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E-bikes...where you can "lose control going uphill" and fall off a cliff. Assuming the trail isn't inches from said cliff, that means the person lost control and continued UPHILL out of control where it went over the edge.

I have an ebike for commuting, and even with decades of riding experience, it was a tough transition to learn how to tame the wild beast. So much weight and a powerful motor which takes some finesse to control the speed made for a tough few rides until I got the hang of it. Inexperienced riders whose first bike is an electric...that seems like a bad combination (which we don't know in terms of this news story, just in general).

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^^^^^^ A while back I considered purchasing a touring motorcycle and taking a class to learn how to properly ride-control such.
After weighing everything, I put the kibosh on this idea due to the risks involved with my poor eyesight and the power of any potential bike being beyond my experience and skill.
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Are you guys sure you are talking about ebikes here?

I commute on an ebike. I recently gave an ebike to my sister in Northern California to commute on instead of her driving her jeep to work every day. When I say ebike I don't think I am thinking of the same thing you guys are.

. . . oh, and my motorcycle, I ride a Moto Guzzi 850.

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E-bikes...where you can "lose control going uphill" and fall off a cliff. Assuming the trail isn't inches from said cliff, that means the person lost control and continued UPHILL out of control where it went over the edge.

I have an ebike for commuting, and even with decades of riding experience, it was a tough transition to learn how to tame the wild beast. So much weight and a powerful motor which takes some finesse to control the speed made for a tough few rides until I got the hang of it. Inexperienced riders whose first bike is an electric...that seems like a bad combination (which we don't know in terms of this news story, just in general).
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^^^^^^ A while back I considered purchasing a touring motorcycle and taking a class to learn how to properly ride-control such.
After weighing everything, I put the kibosh on this idea due to the risks involved with my poor eyesight and the power of any potential bike being beyond my experience and skill.
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I have seen fat MTB e-bikes both in the SoCal canyons and on river trails easily traveling at 30-40 mph.
I cannot say what modifications if any they had but top speed is usually an indication of watts and I could see how an e-bike could get out of the control of a rider rather easily.
I was only echoing that sometimes people do not know what they are getting into and "e-bike' could be a misnomer for an e-motorcycle when you look at the top speed.
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Originally Posted by CAT7RDR
^^^^^^ A while back I considered purchasing a touring motorcycle and taking a class to learn how to properly ride-control such.
After weighing everything, I put the kibosh on this idea due to the risks involved with my poor eyesight and the power of any potential bike being beyond my experience and skill.
The thing there is, start small and work your way up. I started riding minibikes when I was 10, which has no clutch or gears involved. Just learning the throttle & brakes is a learning process, and it lets you get a good sense of how the bike handles, in different situations. Starting out in a dirt field is a good idea, because most people WILL fall a time or two, or more. 🙄😉

Then a bike with a smaller engine, like a 100cc or maybe 125cc, to get used to using the clutch & gears.

Way too many people try to just jump on a bigger bike, like a Harley, without having a clue how to ride. And sadly, a lot of them die or get hurt. 😟

These E-bikes are much the same, I imagine, never been on one yet myself. But you have to learn to walk, before you try running.
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At least he was wearing a helmet.
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I make a distinction between pedal assist and those with throttles. IMHO anything with a throttle is a motor cycle, whether it has pedals or not

It would seem to me to be pretty hard go too fast uphill with pedal assist, and if there is an issue, stopping pedaling should stop power
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