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Old 04-14-22, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
In figuring out what I want to do with under cabinet lighting, I've come across a surprising number of options solely controlled via remote or app. For someone that wants a functional kitchen, that strikes me as being dumb.
How about motion activated?
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It's easily the lesser of two evils. Besides, the water in the pipes, that are inside of the house, is more or less room temp and it takes a little while for the truly numbingly cold water to work through - good incentive to be quick about it.
That depends on region... in Texas, pipes are in the uninsulated exterior walls of the house. It can be plenty cold in the morning much of the year.
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See you and raise you. This is the only of theirs that really gets me.

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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
That depends on region... in Texas, pipes are in the uninsulated exterior walls of the house. It can be plenty cold in the morning much of the year.
Interesting. Our exterior walls are insulated. Most are in residential construction with possible exception of garages. Pipes do go through them though.
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Interesting. Our exterior walls are insulated. Most are in residential construction with possible exception of garages. Pipes do go through them though.
I think our house is a ****box... the "uninsulated" is a bit of an exaggeration, but I wonder, because you know the noise I complain about ripping through the house all the time? It's worst in the bathrooms, where it's always a dull roar of traffic. Bathrooms have plumbing in the exterior walls. It makes me wonder if there's anything in there.

I hate this place.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
That depends on region... in Texas, pipes are in the uninsulated exterior walls of the house. It can be plenty cold in the morning much of the year.
I can guarantee that I've sprayed my nethers with colder - I'd still rather do that than smudge (let's be honest - that's what you're doing) with tp.
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Originally Posted by seedsbelize2
How about motion activated?
Briefly considered that route and decided against it. I have motion activated lights elsewhere and, well... they're not motion activated anymore.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
I think our house is a ****box... the "uninsulated" is a bit of an exaggeration, but I wonder, because you know the noise I complain about ripping through the house all the time? It's worst in the bathrooms, where it's always a dull roar of traffic. Bathrooms have plumbing in the exterior walls. It makes me wonder if there's anything in there.

I hate this place.
We have pipes in exterior walls, and have to be careful with them freezing in really cold weather.

The building codes require insulation in exterior walls, but that does not equate to sound deadening. Also, if you have single pane windows it will be less sound damping.

If you live in a volume built house (David Weekly, for example) the construction was likely done to the lowest quality standards.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
I can guarantee that I've sprayed my nethers with colder - I'd still rather do that than smudge (let's be honest - that's what you're doing) with tp.
Ok Pine Barrens.
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Old 04-14-22, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
We have pipes in exterior walls, and have to be careful with them freezing in really cold weather.

The building codes require insulation in exterior walls, but that does not equate to sound deadening. Also, if you have single pane windows it will be less sound damping.

If you live in a volume built house (David Weekly, for example) the construction was likely done to the lowest quality standards.
You nailed the builder. We replaced the windows, which helped some, but this remains a ****box that has ruined the last two years of my life.
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But ironically the crappy rental house we had before this, which was also a batch-built job, was silent. We should have just bought that thing.
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Old 04-14-22, 03:52 PM
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We won't buy anything other than Charmin, and I love the stuff with the lotion in the paper. No Saturn class stuff it touching my dainty cheeks.
Mrs John accidentally bought some one-ply paper a while back. This stuff is so flimsy, even folded, you can blow right through it when blowing your nose.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
But ironically the crappy rental house we had before this, which was also a batch-built job, was silent. We should have just bought that thing.
The crappy rental house we had before the one we're in now was quiet. There was little insulation, single pane windows, and air leaks throughout, but there were never parties nearby and never fireworks or loud music. I lived there for 16 years and never had trouble going to sleep because of noise. I hated to leave there.
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Mrs John accidentally bought some one-ply paper a while back. This stuff is so flimsy, even folded, you can blow right through it when blowing your nose.
Poke thru is an undesirable risk!
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But ironically the crappy rental house we had before this, which was also a batch-built job, was silent. We should have just bought that thing.
Its not just the noise. The volume builders build them and move them as fast as they can. They are usually built to the minimum required building standards, cutting expense at every corner. It’s little wonder that most of those neighborhood look like crap within ten years.

One thing I could never understand is why do the volume built hoods always end up with a lot of cars parked outside and very few in the garage?

I don’t mean to pick on your home, but I would never buy a house built by the big national builders. That’s coming from a long time construction lawyer.
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Sometimes . Mostly schedules, what other rides we are doing, how training is or isn't going, work family etc.
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Its not just the noise. The volume builders build them and move them as fast as they can. They are usually built to the minimum required building standards, cutting expense at every corner. It’s little wonder that most of those neighborhood look like crap within ten years.

One thing I could never understand is why do the volume built hoods always end up with a lot of cars parked outside and very few in the garage?

I don’t mean to pick on your home, but I would never buy a house built by the big national builders. That’s coming from a long time construction lawyer.
Oh no worries, you're not giving me buyer's remorse. Moving.

As for the cars, yeah, it drives me nuts. If I had my druthers I'd have every car that lives at a house and isn't parked in the garage towed. Especially when they park them across the sidewalk. That's a huge part of why we run on the road instead of the sidewalk...
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
Oh no worries, you're not giving me buyer's remorse. Moving.

As for the cars, yeah, it drives me nuts. If I had my druthers I'd have every car that lives at a house and isn't parked in the garage towed. Especially when they park them across the sidewalk. That's a huge part of why we run on the road instead of the sidewalk...
Nobody here parks in the garage. Here, they serve the purpose that attics used to, or basements. Or family rooms. Oh, you'll occasionally find an old car in them. Or in my case, 10 bikes and a pain cave.
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Some houses here don't have garages, some have a tiny garage. My rental has a big garage behind the house but it would be a giant pain to get my car back there.

The lots here are about 40' wide so there is room for one car plus the width of the driveway. Neighbor next door has 5 cars, next house has 6. Across the street has at least 6. Parking around here gets tough. If Mrs John goes out in her car someone will swoop on her spot sometimes.

There are no sidewalks in this neighborhood.
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I’m referring to 3, 4, 5,000 sq. ft. house neighborhood with at least 2 and often 3 car garages. How much crap can you store in them?
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
I think our house is a ****box... the "uninsulated" is a bit of an exaggeration, but I wonder, because you know the noise I complain about ripping through the house all the time? It's worst in the bathrooms, where it's always a dull roar of traffic. Bathrooms have plumbing in the exterior walls. It makes me wonder if there's anything in there.

I hate this place.
​​​​​​Dual shower and all?
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