How did "vintage" cyclists climb hills?
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Back when I was a boy I was on a farm at the bottom of a bluff. I got where I could make it up the steep gravel lane without stopping . I'm not sure what the bike was probably a BSO fro0m western field or sears roebuck. As boys we were strong from hard honest work.
Boys were boys and girls were girls. Even the girls then were probably much stronger than the gender puzzled wimps of today.
Boys were boys and girls were girls. Even the girls then were probably much stronger than the gender puzzled wimps of today.
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For a couple years in my early minimalist twenties my only bike was a Raleigh SC - single speed with coaster brake. I used to say it had three gears: sit, stand and push.
Is it possible that some of the fascination with low gears today is a consequence of how uncomfortable (and sometimes hazardous) it is to walk up hills in cleated shoes?
Is it possible that some of the fascination with low gears today is a consequence of how uncomfortable (and sometimes hazardous) it is to walk up hills in cleated shoes?
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For a couple years in my early minimalist twenties my only bike was a Raleigh SC - single speed with coaster brake. I used to say it had three gears: sit, stand and push.
Is it possible that some of the fascination with low gears today is a consequence of how uncomfortable (and sometimes hazardous) it is to walk up hills in cleated shoes?
Is it possible that some of the fascination with low gears today is a consequence of how uncomfortable (and sometimes hazardous) it is to walk up hills in cleated shoes?
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Today, even recreational cyclists wear the same outfit as
racers, investing more in clothing and shoes than some of us spend on the bike itself.
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Everything is so much more controlled by team DSes rather than the riders. Marginal gains down to single digit watts per KM on stuff like chain lubricants and derailleur hanger wheels. Commentators complaining if someone moves a non-leg muscle because hey, that's one watt that could go into the crank rather than rocking your body while climbing out of the saddle.
Powermeters, man. They ruined everything.
Powermeters, man. They ruined everything.
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So it seems like one of the first thing the new owner of a vintage bike does--- at least if he/she intends to actually ride said bike, let alone ride it uphill--- is to start fiddling with things in order to get a reasonable climbing gear.
But "back in the day" these bikes were ridden too, no? How the heck did people get up the hills? I'm looking at a 50's era racing bike that was fitted with a single front chainring with 46 teeth, and 4 rear cogs with something like 14-17-19-22. Compare this to the supposedly macho racers of the 70's with a 53/39 and a 12/23! Let alone today's bikes which roll of the sales floors with a 50/34 crank and an 11-34 cassette....
Did people just like suffering more? Were people just strong enough to crank 40 rpm up 12 percent grades? Or did everyone just ride the flats and go around the hills?
I'm actually puzzled by this. How did cycling survive as a sport with such brutal gearing? Figured you folks might know...
But "back in the day" these bikes were ridden too, no? How the heck did people get up the hills? I'm looking at a 50's era racing bike that was fitted with a single front chainring with 46 teeth, and 4 rear cogs with something like 14-17-19-22. Compare this to the supposedly macho racers of the 70's with a 53/39 and a 12/23! Let alone today's bikes which roll of the sales floors with a 50/34 crank and an 11-34 cassette....
Did people just like suffering more? Were people just strong enough to crank 40 rpm up 12 percent grades? Or did everyone just ride the flats and go around the hills?
I'm actually puzzled by this. How did cycling survive as a sport with such brutal gearing? Figured you folks might know...
straight block — 13-18 6 speed freewheel for flat and fast
mid range — 13-21 6 speed for most of my riding
Wide — 13-25 6 speed for punchy/hilly rides
of course, having 1 of each of the freewheels was not sufficient because a set was needed for the spare wheels. Otherwise, it could mean riding a straight block on a hilly course following a flat. It was quite common to change out the chainrings too.
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I *think* I could still climb my old hills in my old gears, but I'm not about to try. I can pedal really slowly and basically balance as if I'm doing a track stand. I had to do that a few summers ago on a century ride when my rear derailleur failed. But most of my bikes now have triple cranksets with low bottom gears. I recently rebuilt a bike with a double crankset and bemoaned the fact that the bottom gear isn't low enough. Now I just calculated it, and it is about the same as my other bikes. Hmm, either my problem is that the bike is heavier than my others (true) or I'm even weaker this year than last year (also possible).
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Cycling was a working class sport. Coureurs were otherwise farm labor, factory labor, street toughs.
Remember the words of Ferdi Kubler. “I knew if I won the Tour de France, I would never go hungry again.”
That was motivation. Try to imagine today’s racers saying such a thing. Thinking such a thing.
Races went up mountains when the bikes had only one gear. Only tough men raced.
Remember the words of Ferdi Kubler. “I knew if I won the Tour de France, I would never go hungry again.”
That was motivation. Try to imagine today’s racers saying such a thing. Thinking such a thing.
Races went up mountains when the bikes had only one gear. Only tough men raced.
Professional athletes in the marquee sports come out of the factories and coal mines and ghettos because their gifts give a tiny few of them an escape hatch, which the rest will have to struggle and scrabble for.
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Near my home in San Antonio I have a greenbelt course with a similarly hilly ride topped off with a 1/2 mile stand-up-in-your-pedals climb that I love taking with that gearing and especially on my fixed gear bike.
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