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12-09-20, 10:17 AM
#8176
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I would hesitate buying a Volvo, simply because they're still a niche type vehicle, and you pay niche type repair bills when they drop out of warranty.
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12-09-20, 10:17 AM
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12-09-20, 10:20 AM
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Timmy Hill does well with a steering wheel bolted to his desk.
12-09-20, 10:33 AM
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Timmy Hill does well with a steering wheel bolted to his desk.
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12-09-20, 10:36 AM
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I do sunset-heart-hands the 4.6L V8 in my GX.
12-09-20, 10:36 AM
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12-09-20, 10:39 AM
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12-09-20, 10:42 AM
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I've come to find there may be more dumb out there that we ever could have imagined.
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12-09-20, 10:47 AM
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I do have a copy of MS Flight Simulator on Steam that I play around with occasionally since it is still pretty fun to take the F-18 or the Extra and rip around the Grand Canyon
Now FPV multirotor racing simulators are awesome. I get to use my actual transmitter as the controller and the physics actually seem pretty realistic. I don't have any experience with a larger racing quad but it does help with my IRL flying with my micro one. I think with one of the more popular sims you can actually qualify to be an IRL pilot from your achievements in the sim.
12-09-20, 10:48 AM
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12-09-20, 10:52 AM
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Yeah, I sat in my friend's rig he spent $3000 on (not including computer), played some DiRT and iRacing, and sure the wheel had really nice feedback and the pedals felt good and acted like real pedals but you're still not getting pushed left and right in turns or getting pushed back into your seat upon acceleration.
12-09-20, 10:53 AM
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The 'Hydropneumatic' suspension consists of spheres containing highly compressed nitrogen (IIRC) above a diaphragm. Below that there's a piston in a cylinder, and the area above the piston and below the diaphragm is filled with the pressurized hydraulic fluid. The suspension arms act on the piston. That's it. No springs, no shock absorbers. And it is AMAZING at smoothing out the bumps. Probably the smoothest riding cars you could find.
You could adjust ground clearance from 2" to 12" by means of a lever beside the driver's left leg - you can't run it at 2", and only very slowly at 12", but there are several intermediate settings you can run at any speed. There's no jack. If you need to replace a flat, you run it up to 12", set the stand in the lug on the rocker panel, and lower it to 2", and it lowers the car and pulls the wheels on that side up for you.
If the car's been sitting a while, like overnight, it will sink down to 2". Start it up and after a few seconds the rear rises, then the nose. Somebody gets in, and the car adjusts the height back to where it was. Get out, and it adjusts down to where it was. They were self-leveling, so if you loaded up the trunk, the system sends more fluid to the rear spheres till it's level.
The brakes run off the same system, and the brake "pedal" is just a big button on the floor, which has almost no travel - it responds to the amount of pressure you put on it. And it will damn near stand the thing on its nose if you push hard enough. Ask me how I know...
The "Citromatic" transmission handles both the clutch and the shifting for you, but you choose the gear. To shift, you work the throttle just like with a clutch - release when you start the shift, back on when it's complete. With practice you get pretty smooth, but you're never going to speedshift it!
It's really a neat system, designed in the early 50s by Citroen, who then largely kept it the same on into the late 70s. When it works, it's amazing! When it DOESN'T work, it's expensive to fix!
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12-09-20, 10:57 AM
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12-09-20, 11:11 AM
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Ugh. 3-5" of snow and 20-30mph winds this Saturday.
12-09-20, 11:26 AM
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12-09-20, 11:52 AM
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It was more than that. It was a high pressure hydraulic system that did both the suspension and the brakes, and in cars with the "Citromatic" semi-automatic transmission, the clutch as well.
The 'Hydropneumatic' suspension consists of spheres containing highly compressed nitrogen (IIRC) above a diaphragm. Below that there's a piston in a cylinder, and the area above the piston and below the diaphragm is filled with the pressurized hydraulic fluid. The suspension arms act on the piston. That's it. No springs, no shock absorbers. And it is AMAZING at smoothing out the bumps. Probably the smoothest riding cars you could find.
You could adjust ground clearance from 2" to 12" by means of a lever beside the driver's left leg - you can't run it at 2", and only very slowly at 12", but there are several intermediate settings you can run at any speed. There's no jack. If you need to replace a flat, you run it up to 12", set the stand in the lug on the rocker panel, and lower it to 2", and it lowers the car and pulls the wheels on that side up for you.
If the car's been sitting a while, like overnight, it will sink down to 2". Start it up and after a few seconds the rear rises, then the nose. Somebody gets in, and the car adjusts the height back to where it was. Get out, and it adjusts down to where it was. They were self-leveling, so if you loaded up the trunk, the system sends more fluid to the rear spheres till it's level.
The brakes run off the same system, and the brake "pedal" is just a big button on the floor, which has almost no travel - it responds to the amount of pressure you put on it. And it will damn near stand the thing on its nose if you push hard enough. Ask me how I know...
The "Citromatic" transmission handles both the clutch and the shifting for you, but you choose the gear. To shift, you work the throttle just like with a clutch - release when you start the shift, back on when it's complete. With practice you get pretty smooth, but you're never going to speedshift it!
It's really a neat system, designed in the early 50s by Citroen, who then largely kept it the same on into the late 70s. When it works, it's amazing! When it DOESN'T work, it's expensive to fix!
The 'Hydropneumatic' suspension consists of spheres containing highly compressed nitrogen (IIRC) above a diaphragm. Below that there's a piston in a cylinder, and the area above the piston and below the diaphragm is filled with the pressurized hydraulic fluid. The suspension arms act on the piston. That's it. No springs, no shock absorbers. And it is AMAZING at smoothing out the bumps. Probably the smoothest riding cars you could find.
You could adjust ground clearance from 2" to 12" by means of a lever beside the driver's left leg - you can't run it at 2", and only very slowly at 12", but there are several intermediate settings you can run at any speed. There's no jack. If you need to replace a flat, you run it up to 12", set the stand in the lug on the rocker panel, and lower it to 2", and it lowers the car and pulls the wheels on that side up for you.
If the car's been sitting a while, like overnight, it will sink down to 2". Start it up and after a few seconds the rear rises, then the nose. Somebody gets in, and the car adjusts the height back to where it was. Get out, and it adjusts down to where it was. They were self-leveling, so if you loaded up the trunk, the system sends more fluid to the rear spheres till it's level.
The brakes run off the same system, and the brake "pedal" is just a big button on the floor, which has almost no travel - it responds to the amount of pressure you put on it. And it will damn near stand the thing on its nose if you push hard enough. Ask me how I know...
The "Citromatic" transmission handles both the clutch and the shifting for you, but you choose the gear. To shift, you work the throttle just like with a clutch - release when you start the shift, back on when it's complete. With practice you get pretty smooth, but you're never going to speedshift it!
It's really a neat system, designed in the early 50s by Citroen, who then largely kept it the same on into the late 70s. When it works, it's amazing! When it DOESN'T work, it's expensive to fix!
12-09-20, 11:57 AM
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12-09-20, 12:10 PM
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In the early 80s I spent 6wks one summer living in an abandoned farmhouse in Italy that the new owners (German family friend) bought to fix up. They drove a Citroen with the hydraulic lift as well as headlights that steered. I remember as a kid passenger driving all over the countryside in that thing - somewhere in the Florence Siena region. It certainly was intriguing and memorable for my young mechanically interested mind.
12-09-20, 12:12 PM
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. . . or the orange delusional fog, it’s hard to tell. 
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12-09-20, 12:23 PM
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Who could possibly argue with this?
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12-09-20, 12:25 PM
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Is anyone else troubled by BillyD .s avi?
12-09-20, 12:26 PM
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Heart hands are the hand symbol for “love”.
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12-09-20, 12:32 PM
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Is anyone else troubled by BillyD .s avi?
12-09-20, 12:33 PM
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