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Old 07-19-21, 09:41 AM
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Low volume week, family vacation to Blowing Rock. Lots of hiking time.

I did get in two short 1hr-ish climb workouts. Just ride down off the house from the mountain, do a loop and grab a couple little climbs back to the house at SS and threshold. Some cat 3 and a cat 2 climb.

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-wish I lived there
-Zwift outside of radio tower doesn't have steep climbs
-if you look, there is steepness in NC mountains, not like 4-mile long mega % Italian stuff.......but still.....more than most Zwift climbs have for % grade in parts
-"downhill then up" cheated elevation gain really is a big thing somewhere like Raleigh.....you gain a ton of "up" by riding rollers. In real mountains, not so as you have to slow for corners down and you don't gain any cheated elevation. All earned.
-had to use the tubeless 38 gravel tires due to house location.......those cost me something going up the paved roads
-I don't know......I may just make TT and cyclocross my "thing" then have the wife let me do a couple of the GFNS USAC partner timed hill climb segment events each year and ditch any return to road race. I feel I'd have more fun a couple weekends a year doing that and finishing XX of XXX for fun than finishing with road rash sliding out in a parking lot crit.
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Old 07-19-21, 11:08 AM
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Super fun day on the MTB with my son yesterday. Finished the week with 787 tss. 600 is a big week for me, so this was huge. I'm taking the day off (other than mellow commuting).
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Old 07-19-21, 12:21 PM
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Track on Saturday with wife. 2x2K TTT, 25 mph (meh) and 4K TTT riding two z2 laps and one fast last taking turns leading out. Nice day at the track. Sunday was a 30 mile endurance ride along the coast - hotter than it has been lately but nice.

I am enjoying the sub 170 pound weight. I seem a lot faster and more than the weight loss would calc out in speed gain. I just need to be skinny. So be it.
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Old 07-20-21, 01:18 PM
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Highest training load since Feb 2020. Was even able to do some (mediocre) intervals yesterday, at the end of a 19.5 hour week. Not doing much for the next day or two. It is good timing - the jet stream is dumping all of the west coast's smoke on us.
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Old 07-20-21, 02:31 PM
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Still training for Cx here, today was 14x45sec on at 123% and off for 45 sec. wasnít tough at all, which Iím going to take as a good thing as this adaptive training thing keeps gradually increasing the difficulty of my stuff each week. Might race a crit on Saturday and maybe double up back to back just for laughs. I have not raced in two years lol
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Old 07-20-21, 04:01 PM
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Highest training load since Feb 2020. Was even able to do some (mediocre) intervals yesterday, at the end of a 19.5 hour week. Not doing much for the next day or two. It is good timing - the jet stream is dumping all of the west coast's smoke on us.
19.5 hours is huge!
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Old 07-20-21, 06:57 PM
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Yesterday in town TT ride. One KOM surge then just whatever. Just wasnt in mood for anything. 100 TSS in like 65min.

490w 1min and 455w 1.5min in aero. One and done.

I kind of want to see if I can get up to 400 for longer, like 3 to 4min. It is just a time range I am totally unfamiliar with training for on purpose. Sounds like Hermes wheelhouse to me. 1min through 4min.
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Old 07-21-21, 03:20 AM
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I skipped Worlds last night to try and be fresher for 2 crits on Thursday.

I've signed up for a 3/4 road race on the 8th of Aug and I've got 3 weeks of crits between now and then, so I'm not exactly sure how I'm going to manage not going over 40 points (22/40 now) before then. I think I need to just focus on getting the points and not try to get cute.

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Old 07-21-21, 05:53 AM
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I I think I need to just focus on getting the points and not try to get cute.
Take a lesson from Cavendish and get it while you can. Smash the crits and then get the promoter to change categories for the RR and smash that.
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Take a lesson from Cavendish and get it while you can. Smash the crits and then get the promoter to change categories for the RR and smash that.
Yeah, I think that's right. If I've made the goal of getting an upgrade, I think that needs to trump any particular race.
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Old 07-21-21, 10:15 AM
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Most of my go-to road races are cancelled for this year. I'll probably race Suisun, and Oakland if they have it, but I'm going switch my focus to CX for now.
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Old 07-21-21, 01:20 PM
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A few hours this morning on zone 2. Pretty tired, stiff and uncooperative legs after track last night and less sleep than ideal. Still, it was nice out and I got to work on my funny tan lines, so that's a bonus.
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Old 07-22-21, 08:34 AM
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Not doing this yet but it seems interesting. Blood flow restriction for training and recovery.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/21/s...sultPosition=1

No, there is no outbreak of cuts. But the American swimmer Michael Andrew is wearing tourniquet-like bands in the practice pool. Galen Rupp, the defending bronze medalist in the marathon, sometimes straps similar bands to his legs while training.

They are among the elite athletes who have become disciples of a practice known as blood flow restriction, which is exactly what it sounds like: cutting off blood flow to certain muscles for limited periods to both enhance the effects of training and stimulate recovery.
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Old 07-22-21, 08:36 AM
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I'm not expert, but that sounds like a bad idea.
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Dentist intervals yesterday. Two old crowns removed - 1.5 hours of chair time TSS = 100.
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Old 07-23-21, 04:07 PM
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Not doing this yet but it seems interesting. Blood flow restriction for training and recovery.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/21/s...sultPosition=1

No, there is no outbreak of cuts. But the American swimmer Michael Andrew is wearing tourniquet-like bands in the practice pool. Galen Rupp, the defending bronze medalist in the marathon, sometimes straps similar bands to his legs while training.

They are among the elite athletes who have become disciples of a practice known as blood flow restriction, which is exactly what it sounds like: cutting off blood flow to certain muscles for limited periods to both enhance the effects of training and stimulate recovery.
Think of it as "altitude training" for a single body part.

Oxygen deprivation as a training mechanism.
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Old 07-23-21, 04:37 PM
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Going to be off the bike for most of next week, so I'm just going to drive the TSB as far negative as I can till then. 1:30 of over-under intervals this morning, which I just hate. But I'm glad I got them done. I do these early morning workouts on a ring-road of our local muni 9-hole golf course. This morning a city worker in a big white truck pulled out of a service road right in front of me so there was yelling. Had my bright strobe light on that annoys all the little old ladies walking their cockapoos, but City Worker couldn't see it I guess.
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Going to be off the bike for most of next week, so I'm just going to drive the TSB as far negative as I can till then. 1:30 of over-under intervals this morning, which I just hate. But I'm glad I got them done. I do these early morning workouts on a ring-road of our local muni 9-hole golf course. This morning a city worker in a big white truck pulled out of a service road right in front of me so there was yelling. Had my bright strobe light on that annoys all the little old ladies walking their cockapoos, but City Worker couldn't see it I guess.
I got a gift of free time before our family vacation. I drove TSB down to negative 38. Lol.

Then during the trip just did 105% up the cat 3 and cat 2 climb by the cabin a handful of times while the TSB went the exact opposite direction.

Worked out fine. I feel no different from after the trip.

Dude, how are your early AM intensity work going? You just down some coffee and a gel? I may start trying to squeeze in some time in the early AM's during the week, but it isn't enough time for low zone aerobic stuff. It would need to have intensity to be beneficial.
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Took my workout outside today since Iím at my parents place. Was 3 blocks of 16x45sec on at 123% and off at recovery. Ended up with 172 tss. My NP for each block was over threshold so Iím liking that.
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I got a gift of free time before our family vacation. I drove TSB down to negative 38. Lol.

Then during the trip just did 105% up the cat 3 and cat 2 climb by the cabin a handful of times while the TSB went the exact opposite direction.

Worked out fine. I feel no different from after the trip.

Dude, how are your early AM intensity work going? You just down some coffee and a gel? I may start trying to squeeze in some time in the early AM's during the week, but it isn't enough time for low zone aerobic stuff. It would need to have intensity to be beneficial.
Lately, Iíve been doing all my workouts on coffee only. If itís over threshold, I need to eat a bar or something midway.
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I can't decide what to do for my weeknight ride. Solo gravel, group gravel Weds, or worlds Thurs. I like our team worlds but freaking 40+ min out of town drive. And nobody really hangs afterwards. Then again, nobody hangs after group gravel Weds either.

I've been doing that stuff alone recently simply as lots of things piling up meaning riding alone I can get more volume I otherwise wouldn't. Haven't been able to ride at lunch much.

I'm bored with worlds. Route memorized, same crazy strong 1/2's always getting home first and myself 2nd or 3rd. Not enough vertical feature for my skinnier weaker butt to do much. Tried it all this year so far outside of them just not showing up.

I think gravel is the best bet to get the cross bike handling skills coming back. I'm setting PR's in there still so bike handling is better, it isn't all fitness. It just gets old riding solo.

There is some off road stuff out by my work I haven't tried. May message the team mate who lives that way to see if they want to join to try it out.
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Lately, Iíve been doing all my workouts on coffee only. If itís over threshold, I need to eat a bar or something midway.
I do a morning track workout on coffee and very little anything else and the workout will consist of mostly anaerobic and neuromuscular efforts. However, there is not a lot of duration.
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Velo Sports Center (Carson) structured workout. Warmup, accelerations and jumps. Then solo 3 kilos plus a 2k team pursuit with my wife and then two full lap pursuit style standing starts. All 96 gear inches and aerobars.

Up and back to Carson is 2 hours each way but it is such a fun track it seems worth the drive.
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Getting kind of nervous. I haven't been on a bike since I got hit by a car back in mid-May (and had surgery to remove some recurrent tumors from inside my leg in June). My back is still not right though my leg is healing, but I don't have a bike at the moment even if I was good to go. In physical therapy for my back they have me to a warmup on what is essentially a recumbent elliptical (I would ask for a stationary bike but they don't have one and I'm not sure my core is ready for that anyway). This morning, I was looking at the watts I was putting out in warmup and I was only doing 110-140, but after the 8 minutes, I felt like I'd been doing half an hour at 300 or more on the trainer a couple months ago. I get that the motion and positioning are different and breathing through a mask might be affecting me too (and accuracy may not be all that great), but, frick, if feels like my endurance and power have just dropped off a cliff in the last 2 months (I know my weight has gone up).
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Old 07-28-21, 09:33 PM
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bummer himespau. Focus on your recovery and don't sweat the power too much. Hopefully you can get back to riding the trainer and building again soon.
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