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Old 07-23-21, 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by ksryder
2 rides in and I'm a fan. Very compliant and just soaks up the road. Planted and stable on the loose gravel descents. The second picture the tuning chip--Otso's adjustable dropout system, you can move it forward for more technical riding. I doubt I ever do that but I guess it's nice to have. I decided to try the Pirelli Centurato Gravel H tires, 45mm, because I wanted something wider and what limited user feedback I could find on them said they were fast. So far so good but who knows how much of that is new bike watts.
I have the Gravel H and like them- they’re good enough on dry Texas dirt and also work well on pavement, and especially rough pavement. I was ready to swap them for the new Zipps, since they seem to get lots of little sealed punctures and that made me nervous… but then before I made the swap, the rear took a construction screw and got me home, albeit noisily. It sealed once I removed the screw and pumped it a few times, but swapped that to the Zipp anyway. May not have needed to, and leaving the front on until something happens. Great tires, and the RR tests well.

Mine are the 700x40s though, FWIW.
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Old 07-23-21, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by phrantic09
Mine is usually about a 30w difference but I attribute that to hills
A 30w difference would be very low for me at anything above z2, I think. I probably have more starts and stops to deal with, though. VV knows what it's like - life in the big cities.
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Old 07-23-21, 07:08 AM
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While chit chatting in the bike shop yesterday, the owner/mechanic looked longingly at my pedals. He said he can't buy 9/16 pedals for love or money. And he gave a wait time of 18 months for a new bike.
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Old 07-23-21, 07:09 AM
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Oh, they FINALLY told us what order they're going in, I've been wracking my mind.
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Old 07-23-21, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by phrantic09
Rain has been trashing most of my mornings the past three weeks and with my daughters in summer track and travel softball, I can't get out at night anymore. It's really hurt my mileage (but I'd never get to 250 regardless).
Yeah the real killer app for me is the LSS who while definitely LS, not only understands the need to ride, but would even appreciate it if I built my volume to where I could routinely go 4-5 hours with her.

I mean, riding, of course.
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Old 07-23-21, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
I have the Gravel H and like them- they’re good enough on dry Texas dirt and also work well on pavement, and especially rough pavement. I was ready to swap them for the new Zipps, since they seem to get lots of little sealed punctures and that made me nervous… but then before I made the swap, the rear took a construction screw and got me home, albeit noisily. It sealed once I removed the screw and pumped it a few times, but swapped that to the Zipp anyway. May not have needed to, and leaving the front on until something happens. Great tires, and the RR tests well.

Mine are the 700x40s though, FWIW.
Was considering picking those up, good to know.

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A 30w difference would be very low for me at anything above z2, I think. I probably have more starts and stops to deal with, though. VV knows what it's like - life in the big cities.
I looked at some rides, I guess closer to 40.

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Yeah the real killer app for me is the LSS who while definitely LS, not only understands the need to ride, but would even appreciate it if I built my volume to where I could routinely go 4-5 hours with her.

I mean, riding, of course.
My wife encourages me to go, in fact, I'm bagging work a little early today at her encouragement so I can get 60-70 in assuming the storms hold off. Would love to ride with her, but she has a foot problem that prevents her from wearing tight cycling shoes, which is a bummer for her.
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Old 07-23-21, 07:19 AM
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Cold has been hampering my mornings. Who would guess that late July/early August weather in the quasi South, would be virtually equal to the dead of Winter in Yucatán?
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Originally Posted by phrantic09
must be nice, my pro ones are shot after about 2500 miles. Front tire currently has a tube patch on the inside.

trying to figure out what to try next
Being easy on tires is apparently a Jewish thing.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
A 30w difference would be very low for me at anything above z2, I think. I probably have more starts and stops to deal with, though. VV knows what it's like - life in the big cities.
Especially when the "traffic engineers" set the lights on dumb dumb mode so people on the main roads have to stop and wait.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
Being easy on tires is apparently a Jewish thing.
Oy vey! Gay kocken offen yom!
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Old 07-23-21, 07:55 AM
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Oy vey! Gay kocken offen yom!
A good friend and former co-worker felt that this was the most useful Yiddish that he could teach me.
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Oy vey! Gay kocken offen yom!
Timeless advice to the confused.
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Do these Olympic games count?
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Being lithe and handsome is apparently a Jewish thing.
fixed, possibly
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Originally Posted by phrantic09
My wife encourages me to go, in fact, I'm bagging work a little early today at her encouragement so I can get 60-70 in assuming the storms hold off. Would love to ride with her, but she has a foot problem that prevents her from wearing tight cycling shoes, which is a bummer for her.
I’m concerned, meanwhile, that mine will suggest DK200.
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I mean, do you watch these as a regular games? Or do you consider them to have a giant asterisk?
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
I’m concerned, meanwhile, that mine will suggest DK200.
That would be equal parts brutal and fun.

Maybe.
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fixed, possibly
Chuck had a different group in mind, but said it well.

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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
Yeah the real killer app for me is the LSS who while definitely LS, not only understands the need to ride, but would even appreciate it if I built my volume to where I could routinely go 4-5 hours with her.

I mean, riding, of course.
Braggart.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Or do you consider them to have a giant asterisk?
Like the NBA bubble last year?

At least my loose following of track events seems to indicate that competition is at a very high level, not the opposite. What little I've seen of gymnastics seems to be at a high level, too. I would consider these games to be normal, not some rush job that's so haphazard that competition is lacking.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
I mean, do you watch these as a regular games? Or do you consider them to have a giant asterisk?
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Speaking of bird encounters:

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^^^ Ouch.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
I have the Gravel H and like them- they’re good enough on dry Texas dirt and also work well on pavement, and especially rough pavement. I was ready to swap them for the new Zipps, since they seem to get lots of little sealed punctures and that made me nervous… but then before I made the swap, the rear took a construction screw and got me home, albeit noisily. It sealed once I removed the screw and pumped it a few times, but swapped that to the Zipp anyway. May not have needed to, and leaving the front on until something happens. Great tires, and the RR tests well.

Mine are the 700x40s though, FWIW.
I ordered both the Gravel H and the Gravel Ms because they weren't in stock anywhere so when I finally found them in stock I figured why not get both and see what happens.

I installed the Gravel Hs with tubes first because it'll be easier to swap them out. Yeah they definitely feel fast. My average speed on Wednesday night's ride was a bit higher than normal but it's hard to say how much of that is the route (that particular route is less hilly and usually faster); new bike watts, or the new tires, or a combination.

I'm not sure what I'll do with the Gravel Ms. Maybe save them for winter.
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